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Thematic Divisions in Book 5
1. Preface to Rubric 2. The Rubric 3. Mary's First Moves 4. The Inhibition5. Bourne's Sermon 6. The True Report7. The Precept to Bonner 8. Anno 15549. From 'The Communication' to 'A Monition' 10. Bonner's Monition11. Mary's Articles for Bonner 12. The Articles 13. From Mary's Proclamation to the 'Stile'14. From the 'Stile' to the 'Communication' 15. The 'Communication' 16. How Thomas Cranmer ... 17. Cranmer18. Ridley 19. Latimer20. Harpsfield's Forme 21. 1563's Disputational Digest22. Political Events up to Suffolk's Death 23. Between Mantell and the Preacher's Declaration 24. The Declaration of Bradford et al 25. May 19 to August 1 26. August 1 - September 3 27. From Bonner's Mandate to Pole's Oration 28. Winchester's Sermon to Bonner's Visitation 29. Pole's Oration 30. From the Supplication to Gardiner's Sermon 31. From Gardiner's Sermon to 1555 32. From the Arrest of Rose to Hooper's Letter 33. Hooper's Answer and Letter 34. To the End of Book X 35. The Martyrdom of Rogers 36. The Martyrdom of Saunders 37. Saunders' Letters 38. Hooper's Martyrdom 39. Hooper's Letters 40. Rowland Taylor's Martyrdom 41. Becket's Image and other events 42. Miles Coverdale and the Denmark Letters 43. Bonner and Reconciliation 44. Robert Farrar's Martyrdom 45. The Martyrdom of Thomas Tomkins 46. The Martyrdom of Rawlins/Rowland White47. The Martyrdom of Higbed and Causton 48. The Martyrdom of William Hunter 49. The Martyrdom of Pigot, Knight and Laurence 50. Judge Hales 51. The Providential Death of the Parson of Arundel 52. The Martyrdom of John Awcocke 53. The Martyrdom of George Marsh 54. The Letters of George Marsh 55. The Martyrdom of William Flower 56. Mary's False Pregnancy57. The Martyrdom of Cardmaker and Warne 58. John Tooly 59. The Examination of Robert Bromley [nb This is part of the Tooly affair]60. Censorship Proclamation 61. The Martyrdom of Thomas Haukes 62. Letters of Haukes 63. The Martyrdom of Thomas Watts 64. Martyrdom of Osmund, Bamford, Osborne and Chamberlain65. The Martyrdom of Ardley and Simpson 66. The Martyrdom of John Bradford 67. Bradford's Letters 68. William Minge 69. The Martyrdom of John Bland 70. The Martyrdom of Frankesh, Middleton and Sheterden 71. Sheterden's Letters 72. Martyrdom of Carver and Launder 73. Martyrdom of Thomas Iveson 74. John Aleworth 75. Martyrdom of James Abbes 76. Martyrdom of Denley, Newman and Pacingham 77. Examinations of Hall, Wade and Polley 78. Richard Hooke 79. Martyrdom of William Coker, et al 80. Martyrdom of George Tankerfield, et al 81. Martyrdom and Letters of Robert Smith 82. Martyrdom of Harwood and Fust 83. Martyrdom of William Haile 84. Examination of John Newman 85. Martyrdom of Robert Samuel 86. George King, Thomas Leyes and John Wade 87. William Andrew 88. William Allen 89. Martyrdom of Thomas Cobb 90. Martyrdom of Roger Coo 91. Martyrdom of Catmer, Streater, Burwood, Brodbridge, Tutty 92. Martyrdom of Hayward and Goreway 93. Martyrdom and Letters of Robert Glover 94. John and William Glover 95. Cornelius Bungey 96. Martyrdom of Wolsey and Pigot 97. Life and Character of Nicholas Ridley 98. Ridley and Latimer's Conference 99. Ridley's Letters 100. Life of Hugh Latimer 101. Latimer's Letters 102. Ridley and Latimer Re-examined and Executed103. More Letters of Ridley 104. Life and Death of Stephen Gardiner 105. Martyrdom of Webb, Roper and Park 106. William Wiseman 107. Examinations and Martyrdom of John Philpot 108. John Went 109. Isobel Foster 110. Joan Lashford 111. Five Canterbury Martyrs 112. Life and Martyrdom of Cranmer 113. Letters of Cranmer 114. Martyrdom of Agnes Potten and Joan Trunchfield 115. Persecution in Salisbury Maundrell, Coberly and Spicer 116. William Tyms, et al 117. The Norfolk Supplication 118. Letters of Tyms 119. John Hullier's Execution120. John Hullier 121. Christopher Lister and five other martyrs 122. Hugh Lauerocke and John Apprice 123. Katherine Hut, Elizabeth Thacknell, et al 124. Martyrdom of John Harpole and Joan Beach 125. Thomas Drury and Thomas Croker 126. Thomas Spicer, John Deny and Edmund Poole 127. Thomas Rede128. Persecution of Winson and Mendlesam 129. William Slech 130. Avington Read, et al 131. Wood and Miles 132. Adherall and Clement 133. A Merchant's Servant Executed at Leicester 134. Thirteen Burnt at Stratford-le-Bow135. Persecution in Lichfield 136. Hunt, Norrice, Parret 137. Martyrdom of Bernard, Lawson and Foster 138. John Careless 139. Letters of John Careless 140. Martyrdom of Julius Palmer 141. Guernsey Martyrdoms 142. Dungate, Foreman and Tree 143. Martyrdom of Joan Waste 144. Three Men of Bristol145. Martyrdom of Edward Sharpe 146. Four Burnt at Mayfield at Sussex 147. John Horne and a woman 148. Northampton Shoemaker 149. Prisoners Starved at Canterbury 150. More Persecution at Lichfield 151. Exhumations of Bucer and Phagius along with Peter Martyr's Wife152. Pole's Visitation Articles for Kent153. Ten Martyrs Burnt at Canterbury154. The 'Bloody Commission'155. Twenty-two Prisoners from Colchester156. Five Burnt at Smithfield157. Stephen Gratwick and others158. Edmund Allen and other martyrs159. Edmund Allen160. Alice Benden and other martyrs161. Richard Woodman and nine other martyrs162. Ambrose163. The Martyrdom of Simon Miller and Elizabeth Cooper164. Rose Allin and nine other Colchester Martyrs165. John Thurston166. Thomas More167. George Eagles168. Richard Crashfield169. Fryer and George Eagles' sister170. John Kurde171. Cicelye Ormes172. Joyce Lewes173. Rafe Allerton and others174. Agnes Bongeor and Margaret Thurston175. Persecution at Lichfield176. Persecution at Chichester177. Thomas Spurdance178. Hallingdale, Sparrow and Gibson179. John Rough and Margaret Mearing180. Cuthbert Simson181. William Nicholl182. Seaman, Carman and Hudson183. Three at Colchester184. A Royal Proclamation185. Roger Holland and other Islington martyrs186. Richard Yeoman187. John Alcocke188. Alcocke's Epistles189. Thomas Benbridge190. Stephen Cotton and other martyrs191. Alexander Gouch and Alice Driver192. Three at Bury193. The Final Five Martyrs194. William Living195. The King's Brief196. William Browne197. Some Persecuted at Suffolk198. Elizabeth Lawson199. Edward Grew200. The Persecuted of Norfolk201. The Persecuted of Essex202. Thomas Bryce203. The Persecuted in Kent204. The Persecuted in Coventry and the Exiles205. Thomas Parkinson206. The Scourged: Introduction207. Richard Wilmot and Thomas Fairfax208. Thomas Greene209. Bartlett Greene and Cotton210. Steven Cotton's Letter211. Scourging of John Milles212. Scourging of Thomas Hinshaw213. Robert Williams214. Bonner's Beating of Boys215. A Beggar of Salisbury216. John Fetty217. James Harris218. Providences: Introduction219. The Miraculously Preserved220. Christenmas and Wattes221. Simon Grinaeus222. John Glover223. Dabney224. Alexander Wimshurst225. Bosom's wife226. The Delivery of Moyse227. Lady Knevet228. Crosman's wife229. Congregation at Stoke in Suffolk230. Congregation of London231. Robert Cole232. Englishmen at Calais233. John Hunt and Richard White234. Punishments of Persecutors235. Tome 6 Life and Preservation of the Lady Elizabeth236. The Westminster Conference237. Nicholas Burton238. Another Martyrdom in Spain239. Baker and Burgate240. Burges and Hoker241. Justice Nine-Holes242. Back to the Appendix notes243. A Poor Woman of Exeter244. Those Burnt at Bristol: extra material245. Priest's Wife of Exeter246. Gertrude Crockhey
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Rid. You shall haue tyme inough. Any daye here after will serue to dispute on.

VVest. Fall to reasonyng. You shal haue som other day for this matter.

Ryd. I haue no more to say concerninge my explication. If you will geue me leaue and lette me alone, I will but speake a woorde or twoo, for my confirmation.

VVest. Goe to, say on.

The confirmation of the aforesayde aunswere.

THere ought to be no doctrine establyshed in the churche of God, whiche dissenteth from the word of God, from the rule of faith, & draweth with it many absurdities, that cannot be auoided:

But this doctrine of the first propositiō is such.

Ergo it ought not to be established and mainteined in the churche of God. The maior or firste part of my argument is playne, and the minor or second part is proued thus:

This doctrine mainteineth a reall, corporall & carnall presence of Christes flesh, assumed and taken of the worde, to be in the sacrament of the Lordes supper, aud that not by vertue & grace onely, but also by the whole essence and substāce of the body and fleshe of Christe:

But suche presence disagreeth from Goddes woorde, from the rule of faith, and cannot but drawe with it many absurdities:

Ergo the seconde parte is trew.

The fyrst part of this argument is manifeste, & the seconde may yet further be confirmed thus.

VVest. Thus you consume time, which might be better bestowed on other matters. Mayster Opponent, I praye you to your argumentes.

Smith. I wyll here reason with you vppon transubstantiation, whiche you say is contrary to the rule and Analogy of fayth, the contrarye whereof I proue by the scriptures, and the doctours. But before I enter argumentation with you, I demaund first whether in the sixt chapter of Iohn, there be any mention made of the sacrament, or of the reall presence of Christe in the Eucharist.

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Ryd. It is against reason that I shoulde bee impeched to prosecute that whiche I haue to speake in this assembly, beyng not so long, but that it may be comprehended in few woordes.

West. Let hym read on.

First of all, this presence is contrary to many places of the holy scripture

Secondly, it varieth from the articles of the faith.

Thirdly, it destroyeth and taketh awaye the institution of the Lordes supper.

Fourthly it maketh precious thinges common to prophane and vngodly persones: for it casteth that whiche is holye, vnto dogges, and pearles vnto swyne.

Fifthly, it forceth menne to maintaine many monstruous miracles withoute necessitye and autoritie of Goddes woorde.

Sixtlye, it geueth occasion to the Heretikes whiche erred concerning the twoo natures in Christ, to defende theyr heresies thereby.

Seuenthly, it falsifieth the sayings of the godly Fathers, it falsifyeth also the Catholike faith of the churche, whiche the Apostles taught, the Martirs confirmed, and the faithful (as one of the fathers saith) doe retain and kepe vntil this daye. wherefore the seconde part of mine argument is true.

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The probation of the antecedent or former parte of this argument by the partes thereof.

Marginalia1 THis carnal presence is contrary to the word of God, as appeareth, Iohn. 16. I tel you the truthe, it is profitable for you that I goe away. for if I goe not awaye, the comforter shall not come vnto you. Acts. 3. Whom the heauēs must receiue, vntyll the time of restoring of al thinges whiche god hath spoken. Mat. 9 The chyldren of the bridegroome cannot mourne so long as the bridegrome is with them: But nowe is the tyme of mournyng. Iohn. 16. but I will see you againe, and your heartes shall reioyce Io. 14. I will come againe and take you to my self. Math. 24. If they shall saye vnto you, beholde, here is Christ, or there is Christ, beleue thē not: for wheresoeuer the dead carkas is, thether the Eagles wil resort.

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Marginalia2It varieth from the articles of the fayth: he ascended into heauen, and sitteth on the ryghte hande of god the father, from whence, (and not from any other place, saith saint Augustine,) he shall come to iudge bothe the quicke and the dead.

Marginalia3It destroyeth and taketh away the institutiō of the Lordes supper, which was commaunded onely to be vsed and continued vntil the Lorde himselfe shoulde come If therefore he be nowe really present in the body of his flesh: thē must the supper cease: For a remembrance is not of a thyng present, but of a thyng paste and absent. And there is a difference betwene remembrance and presēce, and (as one of the fathers sayth) a fygure is in vayne where the thynge figured is present.

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Marginalia4It maketh precious thinges common to prophane and vngodly persons, and constrayneth men to confesse many absurdities. For it affyrmeth that whoremongers, and murtherers, yea and (as some of them holde opinion) that the wicked & faithlesse, myse, rats also, & dogs may receiue the very reall, and corporall body of the Lorde, wherein the fulnesse of the spirit of light and grace dwelleth: contrarye to the manyfeste woordes of Christ in sixe places, and sentences of the sixt chapter of saint Iohn. It confyrmeth also and mainteineth that beastly kinde of crueltie of the MarginaliaAnthropophagies are a kynde of brutyshe people that feede of mās flesh.Anthropophagies, that is, the deuouring of mannes fleshe: for it is a more cruell thing to deuoure a quicke man then to slea hym.

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Pye Dothe the tyme require that you shuld speake blasphemyes? lay your blasphemies asyde I say. 

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Foxe corrected what was an excessively verbose translation made in the 1563 edition (1563, p. 959) of Ridley's exchange with Pye and Weston (see 1570, pp. 1608-09; 1576, p. 1372; 1583, p. 1443).

Ryd. I had litle thought to haue had such reprochefull wordes at your handes

VVest. All is husht and at quiet. Betake you to the argumentes maister Doctor.

Ryd. I haue but lytle to say nowe

VVest you vtter blasphemies with a moste impudent face. Get you to the arguments. Fall to it I say.

Marginalia5It forceth mē to mayntein many monstruous miracles, without al necessitie and authority of Gods woorde. For at the comming of this presence of the body and fleshe of Christ, they thrust away the substaunce of bread, and affyrme that the accidentes remayne without anye subiecte. And in the stede thereof, they place Christes body withoute his qualities, and true maner of a body. And if the sacrament bee reserued so long vntyll it mouldeth, and wormes brede thereof, some say that the substance of bread miraculous- MarginaliaAll the rest that foloweth was not red, because the Prolocutoure made poste haste vnto the argumentes.

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