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Actes and Monumentes of the church

4. Item, that the offerynge vp of the Sacrament in Masses and Trentalles for the synnes of the dead is vngodly. 

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What Redman is saying here is that the Sacrament should not be offered in Requiem masses, not that these masses should not be celebrated. But this would contradict the third point, since if if there is no Purgatory, Requiem masses serve no useful purpose.

¶ Wytnesses.

Iohn yong, A, Nowell, E. Cratforde, Rycharde
Burton, Ellis Lomas.

5. Item, that the wicked are not partakers of the body bodie of Christe, but receaue the outwarde Sacramen only. 

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Now this, if said, is truly evangelical. Note that JohnYoung and Richard Wilkes, both theological conservatives, did not subscribe to the accuracy of this article.

¶ Wytnesses.

Iohn yong, Alexander Nowel, Rychard Elithorn,
Edward Cratforde, Ellis Lomas, Rychard Burton,
Iohn Wryght.

6. Item, that the Sacrament ought not to be caried about in processiō: for it is taught what is þe vse of it in these wordes, Accipite, māducate, et bibite, et hoc facite in mei memoriā. Take, eate, and drynke, and doo this in the remembraunce of me.

Iohn yong, Alexander Nowell, Rychard Burton,
Iohn Wryght, Ellis Cratforde, Ellis Lomas.

7. Item, that nothinge whiche is sene in the Sacrament, or perceiued with any outwarde stuffe is to be worshypped.

Iohn yong, Alexander Nowell, Edward Lomas,
Rychard Burton.

8. Item, that we receaue not Christes body Corporaliter, id est crasse, corporally, that is to saye grossely, lyke other meates, and like as Caphernites 

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'Capernaite' is a prejorative term for anyone who held an overly-carnal understanding of Christ's Real Presence in the sacramental bread and wine. The term is based on John 6: 52.

did vnderstand it.

Iohn yong, Alexander Nowell, Rychard Burton,
Ellis Cratford, Ellis Lomas, Iohn Wryght.

9. Item, that we receaue Christes bodie, Sic spiritualiter vt tamen vere, so spirituallye, that neuerthelesse truely.

Iohn yong, Alexander Nowell, Rich. Burton, El
lis Cratford, Ellis Lomas, Iohn Wryght.

10. Item, as touching transubstantiaciō, that there is not in any of the olde Doctours any good ground or sure profe thereof, or any mention of it, as farre as euer he coulde perceiue, neyther that he seeth what can be aunswered to the obiections made against it.

Iohn yong, Rychard Burton, Ellys Lomas.

11. Item, beyng asked of Maister Wilkes, what that was, that was lyfted vp betwene the priestes handes, He answered: he thought that Christe coulde neyther bee lyfte vp nor downe. 

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This sounds like a rejection of the Real Presence, but it is not necessarily so. Thomas Aquinas had maintained much the same thing, arguing that Christ was only present in the Sacrament under the species of bread and wine, but his actual location was in heaven.

Iohn yong, Rychard Burton, Ellis Lomas.

12. Item, that Priestes may by the law of God marrie wyues. 

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Now this, if said, is truly evangelical. Note that JohnYoung and Richard Wilkes, both theological conservatives, did not subscribe to the accuracy of this article.

Alexander Nowell, Ellis Lomas.

13 That this proposition Sola fides iustificat, so that fides signifie veram viuam et acquiescentem in Christo fidem id est amplexum Christi. That is to saye: Onely fayth doth iustifie, so that fayth do signifie a true, liuely, and a faythe restinge in Christe, and embracinge Christe, is a true, Godly, swete and comfortable doctrine: so that it be so taughte, that the people take none occasion of carnall lybertie thereof. 

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This is less radical than it sounds. No one, Catholic and Protestant, denied that faith alone saved, but were good works inseparable from faith? The ambiguity here comes from the clause that the faith must conform with true doctrine. A Catholic (like John Young) would maintain that this meant acceptance of the teachings of the Church.

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Iohn yong, Alexander Nowell, Rychard Burton,
Iohn Wryght, Edwarde Cratford, Rychard Elithorn
Ellis Lomas.

14. Item, that our workes can not deserue the kyngdome of God and lyfe euerlasting.

Iohn Yong, Alexander Nowell, Richard Burton,
Ellis Lomas, Edward Cratford, Richard Elithorne,
Ihon Wryght.

Item, that the sayde Doctoure Redman, at such times as we the foresayd persons whiche haue subscribed, heard his cōmunicatiō, cōcerning the foresayd poyntes of religion, was of quiet mind and of perfite remembrance, as far as we were able to iudge.

Iohn Yong, Alexander Nowell, Richard Burton,
Ellis Lomas, Edward Cratford, Richard Elithorne,
Ihon Wryght.

☞ Also maister Yong of him selfe doth declare further, touching the former articles on this wise. 

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These are John Young's own comments on Redman's points; they may have been added at Young's insistence, in return for his subscribing to Nowell's list of Redman's points.

¶ To the. v. Article.

IN primis, that doctor Redmā said more, where as saynt Augustine sayd: Quod Iupas idē accepit quod Petrus, that Iudas receiued the same that Peter did, he sayd: that he vnderstoode that of the sacrament, and that after thee same phrase a man might saye: Quod Simon magus idē baptisma recepit quod Apostoli, that Simon Magus receaued the same baptisme that the Apostle did, when he did receaue only the outward sacramēt to his condempnation: for he sayd that he thoughte christ would not vouchsafe to geue his holy flesh to an vngodly man: and this he sayd was alwayes his mind, though he knew that other men did otherwise thinke.

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¶ To the sixt article.

Itē, he said: he neuer liked the cariage about of the sacrament, and preached agaynste it, about a. xvi. yeares since in Cambridge.

¶ To the. x. article.

Item when he was demaunded of transubstātiation, he said: that he had trauailed about it, & thinking that the doubtes which he perceiued did rise thereon, should be made playne by the scholemen, dyd read their bookes, and that after that he had reade them, that the opinion of transubstantiation was euery day magis & magis languida that is, weaker and weaker, & that there was no such transubstantiacion as thei made, adding therto that the whole schole did not know what was meant by consecration, which he sayd was the whole action of the holy communion.

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¶ To the xiii. article.

Item, he sayd that he did repent him that he had so much striued against iustificatiō by onely fayth.

¶ To the. xiiii. article.

Item, that workes hadde theyr crowne and reward, but that they did not deserue eternall life and the kingdome of god, no not the workes of grace, Nam donum dei vita eterna. For euerlasting life is the gift of god.

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