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1. Preface to Rubric 2. The Rubric 3. Mary's First Moves 4. The Inhibition5. Bourne's Sermon 6. The True Report7. The Precept to Bonner 8. Anno 15549. From 'The Communication' to 'A Monition' 10. Bonner's Monition11. Mary's Articles for Bonner 12. The Articles 13. From Mary's Proclamation to the 'Stile'14. From the 'Stile' to the 'Communication' 15. The 'Communication' 16. How Thomas Cranmer ... 17. Cranmer18. Ridley 19. Latimer20. Harpsfield's Forme 21. 1563's Disputational Digest22. Political Events up to Suffolk's Death 23. Between Mantell and the Preacher's Declaration 24. The Declaration of Bradford et al 25. May 19 to August 1 26. August 1 - September 3 27. From Bonner's Mandate to Pole's Oration 28. Winchester's Sermon to Bonner's Visitation 29. Pole's Oration 30. From the Supplication to Gardiner's Sermon 31. From Gardiner's Sermon to 1555 32. From the Arrest of Rose to Hooper's Letter 33. Hooper's Answer and Letter 34. To the End of Book X 35. The Martyrdom of Rogers 36. The Martyrdom of Saunders 37. Saunders' Letters 38. Hooper's Martyrdom 39. Hooper's Letters 40. Rowland Taylor's Martyrdom 41. Becket's Image and other events 42. Miles Coverdale and the Denmark Letters 43. Bonner and Reconciliation 44. Robert Farrar's Martyrdom 45. The Martyrdom of Thomas Tomkins 46. The Martyrdom of Rawlins/Rowland White47. The Martyrdom of Higbed and Causton 48. The Martyrdom of William Hunter 49. The Martyrdom of Pigot, Knight and Laurence 50. Judge Hales 51. The Providential Death of the Parson of Arundel 52. The Martyrdom of John Awcocke 53. The Martyrdom of George Marsh 54. The Letters of George Marsh 55. The Martyrdom of William Flower 56. Mary's False Pregnancy57. The Martyrdom of Cardmaker and Warne 58. John Tooly 59. The Examination of Robert Bromley [nb This is part of the Tooly affair]60. Censorship Proclamation 61. The Martyrdom of Thomas Haukes 62. Letters of Haukes 63. The Martyrdom of Thomas Watts 64. Martyrdom of Osmund, Bamford, Osborne and Chamberlain65. The Martyrdom of Ardley and Simpson 66. The Martyrdom of John Bradford 67. Bradford's Letters 68. William Minge 69. The Martyrdom of John Bland 70. The Martyrdom of Frankesh, Middleton and Sheterden 71. Sheterden's Letters 72. Martyrdom of Carver and Launder 73. Martyrdom of Thomas Iveson 74. John Aleworth 75. Martyrdom of James Abbes 76. Martyrdom of Denley, Newman and Pacingham 77. Examinations of Hall, Wade and Polley 78. Richard Hooke 79. Martyrdom of William Coker, et al 80. Martyrdom of George Tankerfield, et al 81. Martyrdom and Letters of Robert Smith 82. Martyrdom of Harwood and Fust 83. Martyrdom of William Haile 84. Examination of John Newman 85. Martyrdom of Robert Samuel 86. George King, Thomas Leyes and John Wade 87. William Andrew 88. William Allen 89. Martyrdom of Thomas Cobb 90. Martyrdom of Roger Coo 91. Martyrdom of Catmer, Streater, Burwood, Brodbridge, Tutty 92. Martyrdom of Hayward and Goreway 93. Martyrdom and Letters of Robert Glover 94. John and William Glover 95. Cornelius Bungey 96. Martyrdom of Wolsey and Pigot 97. Life and Character of Nicholas Ridley 98. Ridley and Latimer's Conference 99. Ridley's Letters 100. Life of Hugh Latimer 101. Latimer's Letters 102. Ridley and Latimer Re-examined and Executed103. More Letters of Ridley 104. Life and Death of Stephen Gardiner 105. Martyrdom of Webb, Roper and Park 106. William Wiseman 107. Examinations and Martyrdom of John Philpot 108. John Went 109. Isobel Foster 110. Joan Lashford 111. Five Canterbury Martyrs 112. Life and Martyrdom of Cranmer 113. Letters of Cranmer 114. Martyrdom of Agnes Potten and Joan Trunchfield 115. Persecution in Salisbury Maundrell, Coberly and Spicer 116. William Tyms, et al 117. The Norfolk Supplication 118. Letters of Tyms 119. John Hullier's Execution120. John Hullier 121. Christopher Lister and five other martyrs 122. Hugh Lauerocke and John Apprice 123. Katherine Hut, Elizabeth Thacknell, et al 124. Martyrdom of John Harpole and Joan Beach 125. Thomas Drury and Thomas Croker 126. Thomas Spicer, John Deny and Edmund Poole 127. Thomas Rede128. Persecution of Winson and Mendlesam 129. William Slech 130. Avington Read, et al 131. Wood and Miles 132. Adherall and Clement 133. A Merchant's Servant Executed at Leicester 134. Thirteen Burnt at Stratford-le-Bow135. Persecution in Lichfield 136. Hunt, Norrice, Parret 137. Martyrdom of Bernard, Lawson and Foster 138. John Careless 139. Letters of John Careless 140. Martyrdom of Julius Palmer 141. Guernsey Martyrdoms 142. Dungate, Foreman and Tree 143. Martyrdom of Joan Waste 144. Three Men of Bristol145. Martyrdom of Edward Sharpe 146. Four Burnt at Mayfield at Sussex 147. John Horne and a woman 148. Northampton Shoemaker 149. Prisoners Starved at Canterbury 150. More Persecution at Lichfield 151. Exhumations of Bucer and Phagius along with Peter Martyr's Wife152. Pole's Visitation Articles for Kent153. Ten Martyrs Burnt at Canterbury154. The 'Bloody Commission'155. Twenty-two Prisoners from Colchester156. Five Burnt at Smithfield157. Stephen Gratwick and others158. Edmund Allen and other martyrs159. Edmund Allen160. Alice Benden and other martyrs161. Richard Woodman and nine other martyrs162. Ambrose163. The Martyrdom of Simon Miller and Elizabeth Cooper164. Rose Allin and nine other Colchester Martyrs165. John Thurston166. Thomas More167. George Eagles168. Richard Crashfield169. Fryer and George Eagles' sister170. John Kurde171. Cicelye Ormes172. Joyce Lewes173. Rafe Allerton and others174. Agnes Bongeor and Margaret Thurston175. Persecution at Lichfield176. Persecution at Chichester177. Thomas Spurdance178. Hallingdale, Sparrow and Gibson179. John Rough and Margaret Mearing180. Cuthbert Simson181. William Nicholl182. Seaman, Carman and Hudson183. Three at Colchester184. A Royal Proclamation185. Roger Holland and other Islington martyrs186. Richard Yeoman187. John Alcocke188. Alcocke's Epistles189. Thomas Benbridge190. Stephen Cotton and other martyrs191. Alexander Gouch and Alice Driver192. Three at Bury193. The Final Five Martyrs194. William Living195. The King's Brief196. William Browne197. Some Persecuted at Suffolk198. Elizabeth Lawson199. Edward Grew200. The Persecuted of Norfolk201. The Persecuted of Essex202. Thomas Bryce203. The Persecuted in Kent204. The Persecuted in Coventry and the Exiles205. Thomas Parkinson206. The Scourged: Introduction207. Richard Wilmot and Thomas Fairfax208. Thomas Greene209. Bartlett Greene and Cotton210. Steven Cotton's Letter211. Scourging of John Milles212. Scourging of Thomas Hinshaw213. Robert Williams214. Bonner's Beating of Boys215. A Beggar of Salisbury216. John Fetty217. James Harris218. Providences: Introduction219. The Miraculously Preserved220. Christenmas and Wattes221. Simon Grinaeus222. John Glover223. Dabney224. Alexander Wimshurst225. Bosom's wife226. The Delivery of Moyse227. Lady Knevet228. Crosman's wife229. Congregation at Stoke in Suffolk230. Congregation of London231. Robert Cole232. Englishmen at Calais233. John Hunt and Richard White234. Punishments of Persecutors235. Tome 6 Life and Preservation of the Lady Elizabeth236. The Westminster Conference237. Nicholas Burton238. Another Martyrdom in Spain239. Baker and Burgate240. Burges and Hoker241. Justice Nine-Holes242. Back to the Appendix notes243. A Poor Woman of Exeter244. Those Burnt at Bristol: extra material245. Priest's Wife of Exeter246. Gertrude Crockhey
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authority which he could not answer vnto. After this maister Dean made this argument out of the institution of the sacrament, (doe thys in remēbrance of me, and thus ye shal shew furth the Lordes death vntill he commeth.) The sacrament therfore is the remembrance of Christ, thā it is not very Christ. For yet he is not com. For this worde (vntyll he commeth) doth plainly signify the absence of Christes bodye. Than Marginaliaweston. the Prolocutor went about to shewe that thys worde (vntyll he commeth) did not import any absence of Christ on the earth, by other places of scripture where (donec) vntyll, was placed as well as there: but directly to the purpose he answered nothyng. In conclusion maister Deane fell to questioning of Moreman whether Christ eate the Paschal Lābe with his disciples or no? He answered, yea. Further he demaunded whether he eate lykewise the sacrament with them, as he did institute it? Moreman answered: yea. Than he axed what he eate, and whether he eat his owne natural body as they may imagine it to be, or no. MarginaliaMoreman affirmeth that Christ eat his owne body Than sayde maister Deane, it is a great absurditie by you graunted, and so he sate downe. Against this absurditie Philpot stoode vp and argued, saying he coulde proue by good reason to be deduced out of scripture, that Christ eate not his owne natural body at the institution of the sacrament, and the reason is this. The body of Christ geuen by the sacramente hath a promesse of remission of synnes adioyned, vnto all them that receiue it duely, MarginaliaPhylpot but this promesse could take no effect in Christ: ergo Christe eate not his owne body in the sacrament.  

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Thus when Philpot argued that 'The body of Christ givyn by the sacrament hath a promes of remission of synnis adjoyned vnto all them that receyve it dewely, but this promes could take no effect in chryst, ergo christ ate not his own body in the sacrament', (Trew report, sigs. B6v-B7r; 1563, p. 909); Foxe changed this to 'Receaving of Christes body hath a promise of remission of sinnes with it annexed, Christ eating the Sacrament had no promise of remission of sinne, ergo, Christ in the Sacrament dyd not eate his own body' (1570, p. 1573; 1576, p. 1342; 1583, p. 1412).

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To thys reason Marginalia Moreman denieth the sacramente to haue a promesse of remissiō of syn annexed vnto it. Moreman aunswered, denying the former part of the argument, that the sacramente had a promesse of remission of synnes annexed vnto it Thā Philpot shewed this to be the promesse in the sacrament (which is geuen for you, whiche is shed for you, for the remission of sinnes.) But Moreman woulde not acknowledge that to be any promesse, so that he droue Philpot to the. vi. of sainte Iohn, to vouche his sayinge with these words The bread which I wil geue, is my flesh, which I wyl geue for the lyfe of the world. Moreman aunswering nothyng directly to this argument, MarginaliaHarpsfield affyrmeth that which Moreman his felowe denyed. Harpsfield start vp to supply that which wanted in his behalfe, and thinking to haue aunswered Philpot, confirmed more strongly his argument, sayinge, ye mistake the promesse whiche is annexed to þe body of Christ in the sacrament: for it perteyned not to Christ but to his disciples, to whome Christ sayd this is my body whiche is geuen for you, and not for Christ himself. You haue sayd wel for me, quod Philpot. For that is myne argument. The promesse of the bodye of Christe tooke no effecte in Christ, ergo Christ eate not his owne body. Marginaliaweston also is cōtrary to Moreman. Than the Prolocutor to shoulder out the matter, sayd the argument was naught For by the like argument he myghte goe aboute to proue that Christ was not baptysed, because the remission of synne whiche is annexed vnto baptisme tooke no effect in Christe. To the which Phylpot replied, that lyke as Christ was baptised, so he eate the sacrament: MarginaliaPhylpots argumente is not soluted. but he tooke on hym baptisme, not that he had any nede therof, or that it toke any effect in hym, but as our mayster, to geue the churche an example to folowe hym in the ministration of the sacrament, and therby to exhibite vnto vs, hymself, and not to geue him self to hymselfe.

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No more was sayd in this. But afterward the Prolocutor demanded of Philpot, whether he would argue agaynst the natural presece or uo, To whome he answered, yea if he would heare his argumente with out interruption and assigne one to answere him and not many, which is a confusion to the Opponēt and specially for hym that was of an yl memory. By this tyme the nyght was com on. wherfore the Prolocutor brake vp the disputacion for that tyme, and appointed Philpot to be the fyrst that shuld begin the disputacion the next daye after, concerning the presence of Christ in the sacrament.

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The act of the iiij. daye.

ON the wensdaye the xxv. of October, MarginaliaPhylpot. Ihon Philpot, as it was before appointed, was redy to haue entred the disputation myndyng fyrst to haue made a certen oration and a trew declaracion in laten of the matter of christes presence, which was than in question: which thing the Prolocutor perceiuing, by and by he forbad Philpot to make any oration or declaracion of any matter, commaunding hym also that he should make no argument in laten, but to conclude on his argumentes in Englysh. Then sayd Philpot: MarginaliaWestō contrary to his own words this is contrary to your order taken at the begynnyng of thys disputacion. For than you appoynted that all the argumenties should be made in laten. And thereupon I haue drawen and deuysed all my argumentes in laten. And because you, Maister Prolocutor, haue sayd here tofore openly in this house that I had no lerning, I had thought to haue shewed such lerning as I haue, in a briefe oration and short declaration of the questions now in controuersy: thinking it so most conuenient also, that in case I shoulde speake otherwyse in my declaration than should stād with lerning, or than I were able to warrant and iustyfy by gods word, it myght the better be reformed by such as were lerned of the house, so that the vnlearned sorte beinge present myghte take the less offence therat. But this alleagacion preuayled nothing with the Prolocutor, who bad him still forme an argument in Englyshe, or els to hold hys peace.

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Thē sayd Philpot You haue sore disappointed me this sodeinly to go from your former order: but I wyll accomplysh your commaundement, leauyng myne oration a part. And I wyl come to my argumentes, the which as well as so sodain a warning wyll serue, I wyll make in English. But before I bryng furth any argument, I wyl in one word declare what maner of presence I do disallow in the sacrament, to the intent the hearers maye the better vnderstande to what ende and effect myne argumentes shall tend: not to deny vtterly the presence of christ in hys sacramentes trewly ministred accordyng to his institution, but only to deny that grosse and carnal presence which you of thys house haue alredy subscribed vnto to be in the sacrament of the altar, contrary to the truth and manyfest meanyng of the scriptures: That by transubstanciation of the sacramental bread and wyne Christes natural body should by the vertue of the words pronounced by the priest be conteined and included vnder the formes or accydentes of breade and wyne. This kynd of presence imagined by men, I do deny, quod Philpot. And agaynst this I wyll reasō. But before he could make an ende of that he

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