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K. Hen 8. Prophesies and Prouerbiall sentences against the Church and Sea of Rome.

whiche might be preiudiciall or hurtfull to their monkery, or against their Religion: But there shoulde come one (and assigned the yeare, an. 1516.) Who should vtterly subuert all monkery. and they should neuer be able to resist him &c. MarginaliaEx Phil. Melanct. in Apologia cap. de vot. Monast.

Long it were to induce here all Prophecies that be read in histories. Certeine I minde briefly to touch & passe ouer. MarginaliaEx Reuelat. Brigit. lib. 4. cap. 17.And first to omit the reuelations of Brigit (wherunto I doe not muche attribute) 

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Note Foxe's reluctance to appear to be giving too much credence to a Catholic saint and mystic.

who prophecying of the destruction of Rome in her 4. booke, cap. 17. sayth: 
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Foxe had already quoted this passage earlier in his text: See Memoriale effigatum librorum prophetiarum seu visonum B. Brigidae (Rome, 1556), sig. S4v. For those using a different edition of St. Bridget's writings, it should be noted that Foxe's citation of the book and chapter are correct..

MarginaliaBrigit prophesieth of reformaion.That Rome shalbe scoured and purged with three thinges, with sworde, fire, and the plough: resembling moreouer the sayd Church of Rome to a plant remoued out of the old place into a new. Also to a body condemned by a iudge, to haue the skinne flayne off. the bloud to be drawen from the fleshe, the flesh to be cut in peeces, and the bones thereof to be broken, and all the marow to be squiesed out from the same, so that no part thereof remayne whole and perfect. &c. But to these speculations of Brigit, I geue no great respect, as neither I doe to the predictions of Katherine De Senis. 
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Again, Foxe is reluctant to credit the visions of a Catholic saint. But Foxe is also probably referencing the criticisms made of Catherine of Siena by Mathias Flacius, in his Catalogus testium veritatis, which is Foxe's source for her prophecy.

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And yet notwithstanding, Antoninus writing of the same Katherine in hys 3. part. Tit. 23. cap. 14. MarginaliaAntonia. part. 3. hist. titul, 23. cap. 14. reciteth her wordes thus, prophesying of the reformation of the church to Fryer Reymund her ghostly father: 

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This prophecy (including the citation of St. Antoninus) is taken from Mathias Flacius, Catalogus testium veritatis (Basel, 1562), p. 523.

MarginaliaKatherina Senensis, prophecying of reformation.By these tribulations (sayth she) God after a secret maner vnknowne to man, shall purge his holy Church, and after those thinges shall follow such a reformation of the holy Church of God, and such a renouation of the holy pastours, that the onely cogitation and remembrance thereof maketh my spirite to reioyce in the Lord: And, as I haue oftentimes told you heretofore, the spouse which is now all deformed and ragged, shalbe adourned and decked with most ritch and precious ouches and brouches: and all the faythfull shalbe glad and reioyse to see themselues so bewtified with so holye pastours. Yea and also the infidels then allured by the sweete sauour of Christ, shall returne to the catholicke folde, and be conuerted to the true byshop and shepheard of theyr soules. Geue thankes therefore to GOD, for after this storme, hee will geue a great calme. &c.

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Of the authoritie of this prophetisse, I haue not to affirme or iudge, but rather to heare what the Catholique iudge will say of this their owne saint and Prophet. For if they do not credite her spirite of prophesie, why then doe they authorise her, for a pure saint amōg þe Sisters of deare S. Dominick? If they warrēt her prophesie, let them say then when was this glorious reformation of the Churche, euer true or like to be true, if it be not true now in this maruellous alteration of the Churche, in these our latter dayes? Or when was there any such conuersion of Christian people in all countries euer heard of, since the Apostles tyme, as hath bene since the preaching of Martine Luther.

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Of Hieronimus Sauonarola I wrote before, 

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Matthew 10:26; Luke 12:2.

pag 000 shewing that he prophecied: MarginaliaThe prophesie of Herion. Sauonarola. Vid. supra. pag. 733. & 733.That one shoulde passe ouer the Alpes like to Cyrus, who shoulde subuert and destroy all Italye. Which may well be applyed to Gods word, and the Gospell of Christ, spreading nowe in all places since Luthers time.

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Theodoricus Bishop of Croacia, liued 

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The prophecy of Theodoric is taken from Mathias Flacius, Catalogus testium veritatis (Basel, 1562), p. 541.

neare about the time, when Hus and Hierome were martyred. Who in þe ende of his propheticall verses, which are extant in print, declareth: MarginaliaThe prophesie of Theodoricus.That the sea of Rome whiche is so horriblie polluted with Simonie and auarice, shall fal, and no more shal oppresse men with tyranny, as it hath done, and that it shalbe subuerted by hys owne subiectes, and that the Church and true pietie shal florish agayne more then euer it did before.

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Nouiomagus testifieth, 

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This prophecy comes Mathias Flacius, Catalogus testium veritatis (Basel, 1562), p. 562.

that he in the yeare of our Lord, 1520. heard Ostendorpius, a Canon of Dauentrie, say: that when he was a young man Doctor Weselus a Phrysian, which was then an old man, told him, MarginaliaThe prophesie of Doct. Weselus.That he should liue to see this new schoole diuinitie of Scotus, Aquinas, and Bonauenture to be vtterly forsaken and exployded of all true Christians.

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In a booke of Carolus Bouillus, mention is made of a certaine vision, which one Nicholas:  

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The vision of Nicholas and the anecedote of Nicholas Medler are taken from Mathias Flacius, Catalogus testium veritatis (Basel, 1562), p. 571.

an heretique of Heluetia, had, MarginaliaA prophesie of the popes head.in which vision he saw the popes head crowned with 3. swordes proceeding from hys face: and 3. swordes comming toward it. This vision is also imprinted in the bookes of Martine Luther, with hys preface before it.

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Nicholas Medlerus, being of late superintendent of Brūswyke, affirmed and testified: That he heard and knewe a certayne Priest in his country, which told the priests there, that they layd aside Paule vnder their deskes and pues: but the time would come, when as Paule should come abroad, and driue them vnder the deskes and darcke stalles, where they shoulde not appeare. &c.

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Matthias Flaccius, in the ende of his booke intituled: MarginaliaEx Flacio de testious veritatis.De testibus veritatis, speaketh of one Michaell Stifelius, 

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Mathias Flacius, Catalogus testium veritatis (Basel, 1562), pp. 583-4.

which Michaell being an old man, told him that he heard the Priestes and Monkes say many tymes, by old prophecies, that a violent refor-mation must needes come amongest them: and also that the sayd Michaell heard Cōradus Stifelius his father, many tymes declare the same: who also for the great hatred he bare agaynst this filthy sect of Monkes and priestes, told to one Peter Pirer a friend and neighbour of hys, that he should lyue and see the day, and therefore desired him, that when the day came, besides those Priestes which he should kill for himselfe, he woulde kill one priest more for hys sake Hæc ex Flaccio.

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This Sifeleus thought belike, that this reformation shuld be wrought by outward violence, and force of sword but he was thereing deceiued. Although the aduersarye vseth all forcible meanes, and violent tyranny, MarginaliaThe Gospel beginneth his reformation with peace and quietnes.yet the proceeding of the Gospell alwaies beginneth with peace, and quietnes.

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In the table of Amersham men I signified a little before pag. 774. how one Haggar 

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John Hacker was an extraordinarily influential Lollard with a long career; see J. A. F. Thomson, The Later Lollards, 1414-1520 for details. Hacker will be arrested in London in 1527 and in 1528, he would abjure and give the names of over 40 other Lollards to the authorities (1563, p. 418 and BL, Harley 421, fos. 11r-14r).

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of Londō, speaking of this reformation to come: declared: That the Priestes should make battaile, and haue the vpper hand a while, but shortly they should be vanquished, and ouerthrowne for euer.

In the tyme of pope Alexander the 6. and about the yeare of our Lord. 1500. as is before specified, 

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The stories of Alexander VI's death and of the statue of the angel struck by lightning are from Bale, Catalogus, p. 634

pag. 757. MarginaliaThe fall of the Popedome signified by the fall of the Angel, from the Church toppe of the popes Castle.the hygh angell which stoode in the top of the popes churche and castle of S. Angell, was throwne downe with a terrible thunder, into the riuer of Tybris: whereby might seeme to be declared the ruine and fall of the popedome.

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To this may be adioyned, 

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The portents in 1505 and 1516 come from John Bale, Scriptorum Illustrium maioris Brytanniae…Catalogus (Basel, 1557), pp. 645-6.

whiche in certayne Chronicles, and in Iohn Bale MarginaliaEx Baleo Centur. 8. is recorded: which sayth, that in þe yeare of our Lord. 1516. whiche was the same yeare when Martine Luther began, Pope Leo the x. dyd create 31. Cardinals: In the which yeare and day of theyr creation, there fell a tēpest of thūder and lightning in Rome, which so strake the church where the Cardinals were made, that it remoued the little Childe Iesus out of the lappe of hys mother, and the keyes out of Saint Peters hand. MarginaliaAn other signification of the popes subuersion.Whiche thing many then did interprete to signifie and foreshow the subuersion and alteration of the sea of Rome.

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Marginalia

Ex Ioan. Carione. Fronc. Mirandula. & alijs.

Bloudie markes of the Lordes passion, seen vpon mens garments.

Hetherto pertayneth also a strange portente and a prodigious token from heauen, in the yeare of our Lord. 1505. In the which yeare, vnder the reigne of Maximilian Emperour, there appered in Germany, vpon the vestures of men as well of Priestes, as lay men, vpon womens garmentes also, and vpon theyr rockes as they were spynning, diuerse printes and tokens of the nayles, of the spunge, of the spayre, of the Lordes, coate, and of bloudy Crosses. &c. All which were seene vpon theyr cappes and gownes, as is most certaynly testified and recorded by diuers, which both did see & also did write vpon the same. Of whom first was Maximilian the Emperour, who both had and shewed the same to Franciscns Mirandula, which wrote thereupon a booke in Latine meter called Staurostichon: 
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I.e., the Stauristichon of Giovanni Pico della Miarandola.

wherin for the more credite, these verses be conteyned.

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Non ignota cano, Cæsar monstrauit, & ipsi

Vidimus: Innumeros prompsit Germania testes. &c.

Of this also writeth Iohn Carion, Functius, Phil. Melanct. Flaccius, with diuers other moe. 

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The references to all of these writers, including Pico della Mirandola, is from John Bale, Scriptorum Illustrium maioris Brytanniae…Catalogus (Basel, 1557), p. 646.

MarginaliaThe exposition of this portent.These markes and tokēs, as they were very straunge, so were they diuersly expounded of many, some thinking that they pretended affliction and persecution of the churche to drawe neare: some, that God by that token did admonishe them or foreshewed vnto them, the true doctrine of their iustification, which onely is to be sought in the Crosse and passion of Christ, and no other thing. This I maruell, that Christianus Masseus, and other of that profession, doe leaue it out. Belike they sawe some thinge in it, that made not to theyr liking. For whether it signifieth persecution to come vpon the Germayns they cannot be euill that suffer and beare the Crosse wyth Christ: Or whether it signifieth the true doctrine of Christ comming to the Germaynes it cannot otherwise be, but that the doctrine of the Byshop of Rome must needes be wrong, which is contrary to this which God hath styrred vp in Germany.

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By this and such like prophecies it is euident to vnderstand, the time not to be farre of, when God of his determinate prouidēce was disposed to reforme & to restore his Churche. And not onely by these prophecies the same might well appeare but also, and much rather by þe hartes of the people at that tyme, whose mindes were so insenced and inflamed with hatred agaynst the pompe and pryde of Rome, both through all nations, and especially the people of Germany, that it was easie to perceaue the tyme was neare at hand, whē the pride of popish prelacy would haue a fall. Such disdeyne there was, such contempte and derision began to ryse on euery side then agaynst the pope and the Courte of Rome, that it might soone appeare by the heartes of the people, that God was not disposed to haue

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