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Actes and Monumentes Of the Churche.

authoritie fayleth thē, to shewe that we ought to praye to sainctes departed for to be mediatours for vs to Christe. And amonges this is one that they leane muche vpon, brynging it forth so vsually that cōmon people wel nighe all about harpe vpon the same. Some fauouring it, other contrariwyse esteming it of no value. MarginaliaObiectiō to proue inuocation of sainctes, taken out of reason.The reason is thus, if when one should desyre to come to the speach of our soueraigne to obtaine some boune of him, nede it were first to purchase the fauour of his chamberlains or some like officers to bryng him to the kynges presence, for els he may watche long in vaine vntill he be full a colde, or that he shall speake with his grace, and muche les is he lyke to obtaine his petition. In lykewyse it fareth as thei saye betwixt God and vs, of whom if we shuld any benefyte purchase, we must first breake vnto the sainctes departed, makyng them oure frendes to go betwyxt God and vs as meditours, and intercessours. MarginaliaAnswer to the obiectiō wherein is declared þt God and an erthly king are not to be cōferredBut suche, with their leue I would speake it, I thynke are deceyued, that they assemble God and the kyng together, for though the kyng be a full gracious Prynce, as I heare by common reporte he is, yet he is not in gratiousnes to be conferred with God, and though he were as gracious as myght be, yet hath not he the knowledge which is in god, for God knewe of all thynges before the beginnyng of the worlde, and is euery where to see, not only our outwarde dealyng, but also all secrete thoughtes of all mens hartes, so that he nede not no mediatours for to enforme hym of our desyres as the kyng dothe nede. And is so full of infinite mercie that I may as lyghtly or as sone obtayne of him that is for my behoue, as I should wynne by praying holy sayntes to be intercessours to hym for me. Therfore I passyng suche apparant reasons, take me to the ensample of antiquitie, I meane of the Patriarkes, Prophetes, and the Apostles, and authoritie of scripture, whiche teacheth that we nede not to feare, but boldly to resorte vnto Christe hym selfe and his holy father: for so muche as he byddeth vs in these wordes and other lyke so for to doo, saying: Come vnto me all ye that be trauayled, vexed and sore charged, and I wyll refreshe and ease you. Marke howe he biddeth vs resorte vnto hym selfe, and that without feare. For he and his father whiche are all one, geueth abundantly of all goodnes vnto all menne, and vpbrayde no body for their vnworthynes, but if we entende to obtayne of hym, we must al doubtfulnes as I sayde afore put a parte, with a sure confydence of his mercy, aske of hym that we would haue. So that I leaue vnto other what they luste to doo, praying Ihesu that we all may luste for that, that is moste pleasyng to hym. But I thynke, concernyng for my selfe, that accordyng to Christes own commaundement that I maye, withoutany doubt castyng, resorte in al encombraunce to seake ease therof, euen vnto hym selfe, and to his blessed father. Therfore he byddeth vs, whē we shoulde praye to saye after this fashion. Our father that arte in heauen &c. For there is no creature ne creatures that euer were or be that hath more, in so muche nother of myght whereby commeth habilitie to geue helpe, ne of mercy and tendernes, whiche shoulde make them wyllyng in proportion agreable with habilitie, ne of knowledge, that should teache to minister both other, as is our Lorde God: whiche not onely is almyghty, all mercifull, and all wyse: but also infynite in all these glorious properties, so that vndoubted he can, wyll, and knoweth best howe to releaue and succour vs in all necessitie and anguyshe, vnto whome be honour without end for euer, Amē. One thynge yet I wyll shewe you in this case, of whiche thynge I was once aduertysed by a great learned man as I suppose, nowe is lyuyng, I wyll not name hym least I should perhaps cause any displeasure to be conceyued agaynst hym thorowe my relation. The thyng was, MarginaliaThe saying of a learned man.I wyll (quod he) praye vnto sainctes, but that shalbe when I thynke that God, other cannot or wyll not geue me my petition. But that as I shewed in the conuocation house 

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This is a reference to an earlier examination of Lambert before Convocation in 1531.

shall neuer be I hope. And therfore it is to me nedeles to seeke any further about standynge in suche trust and beleue, that I hope I haue founde vpon Gods sure promyse.

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MarginaliaAnswer to the xv. article.To the xv. article. Where you do demaund whether the saynctes in heauen as mediators praye for vs, I saye that I beleue saynctes in heauen doo praye for vs, for I suppose they knowe that all menne generally lyuyng vpō earthe, be wrapped in manifolde myseries lyke as they also were, theyr soules beyng imprysoned within theyr bodyes beynge mortall, albeit I thynke they knowe not what particular myseryes menne vpon earth be tanggled and clogged with, as sheweth Augustine or els some other (that I thynke rather) vnder his name in a certayne worke, saying in thys wyse. MarginaliaSāctes in heauē whether they pray for vsIbi sunt spiritus defunctornm, vbi non vident quæcunque aguntnr aut eueniunt in ista vita hominū. Quomodo ergo vident tumulos suos aut corpora sua vtrum abiecta iaceant, an sepulta? Quomodo intersunt miseriæ viuorum cum vel sua ipsi mala patiantur, si talia merita contraxerunt, vel in pace reqniescant vbi mala nnlla nec paciendo nec compaciēdo sustineant, liberati abo omnibus malis quæ patiendo & compatiendo cum hic viuerent, sustinebant. MarginaliaAugust.The some hereof is, that soules departed, feale nor knowe of no particular myseries susteyned of menne lyuyng in this worlde, whereby they shoulde nede to take other pacience or els compassion after the disease, yet for so muche as they knowe in generall that al men lyuing

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