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K. Henry. 8. The aunsweres of Iohn Lambert to the Byshops articles.

dation to christen mē but onely the vndoubted truth of Iesus, to build our faith vpon, & direct our liuing therafter, as sheweth S. Paul saying: Fundamentum aliud nemo &c. Other foundation can no man lay, then that which is laid which is Iesus Christ. Marginalia1. Cor. 3. And lykewise in the Epistle, vnto the Ephesians, where he sayth: Iam non estis hospites & aduenæ, sed cōciues sanctorum, et domestici dei. &c. MarginaliaEphe. 2. Now ye are no more straungers and foreyners, but Citizens with the Saintes and of the houshold of God.

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MarginaliaEphe. 4. And in the same Epistle S. Paul dilatyng Christes beneficence, sheweth, how that he ordayned in the Church diuers officers, to the edifiyng of Christen people, that he calleth Christes body, vntill all we may come vnto the vnitie of fayth which cōmeth by folowyng of one doctrine whiche is Christes, wherby wee may growe to be perfect men, and that we should not be here lyke to children caryed about with euery wynde of doctrine by deceite & wilines of men that study to deceiue vs.

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In lyke forme doth he warne vs in the epistle to the Hebrues, that we should not be caried about as the wind with diuers and straunge doctrines, but continue in that which euer continueth lyke and all one, agreable for all men in all partes, and that at all tymes: MarginaliaThe inconstancie and variablenes of mens constitutions. not beyng changeable as mens constitutions be, whereof loke what one doth counsayle and ordayne to be of effect, another anulleth the same, accordyng as mens myndes do alway alter and are full vnstedy. MarginaliaThe popes lawes were neuer wholy receiued of all men. Neither doe such pertayne vnto all men, for the Greekes with other (whome the Pope, ne none of hys people wil yet deny to be of Christes church) will in no condition admitte suche, neyther for men to lyue after them, nor to beleue them as pertaynyng to theyr fayth: But they allow well the doctrine that perseuereth euer one, and is vnmutable, as sheweth s. Paule saying: Iesus Christ yesterday, and to day is all one: and so euer shall be. MarginaliaHeb. 13. He is white bread without any sower leuen of Pharisaicall traditions: veritie without guile, light without any darkenes: the very straight way, that hath neither hoke ne croke. From this ought not we to turne neither vpon one hand, ne other, vnlesse we wil goe from hym that is our felicitie and anker of safetie.

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But what should I more entreat of this, excepte I would recite all Scripture, which in euery part is full of admonitions, exhorting and warnyng vs to cleaue fast vnto this way, which is the doctrine of the gospel? which God I besech hym graunt vs all, both to know and loue takyng hede that in no wyse we be seduced therefro, by lawes & doctrines of men. Loke also in the ij. chap. to the Colossians, and the epistle of Timothe and Titus. So that I conclude, in holy scripture to be conteined sufficiently enough of doctrine, for the regiment and saluation of our soules. MarginaliaThe chiefe article obiected agaynst Iohn Lambert. And this because learned men do call the hed Article layd against me: I would that all mē should wel note it, and record my saying therin hereafter, whatsoeuer shall betide of me, for the truth is so in dede, that hereupō hangeth the summe of all. Therfore, I shall recite it once agayne. MarginaliaDoctrine in holy scripture sufficient to saluation of Christen mens soules I say that in holy scripture, the doctrine there onely conteyned, is sufficient for the saluation of christen mēs soules. God geue vs grace we may know it, to build our faith stedfastly vpon the same in working therafter.

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MarginaliaVnwrittē verities. As touching the latter part of your question, I saye that there are many things both to be obserued and to be beleued, that are not expressed in scripture: as the Ciuill lawes of princes, and comminalties ordeyned for ciuill regiment of the body and all other, so that they be not hurtfull to faith or charitie, but helpefull to the same, I recken that we ought to kepe them, not only for feare of punishment, but also for conscience sake, although such ordinances be not expresly and perticularly in scripture expressed, for they are generally therein conteined & spoken of.

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MarginaliaWhat this word expressed meaneth in scripture. Moreouer, if you mean by this word expressed, that which in scripture is clearly shewed out, & appeareth euidētly to euery reader or hearer þt hath but a meane vnderstanding, so I do affirme þt there are some things which a man ought to beleeue, although they bee not of him expresly vnderstand: As I haue euer beleued that the virgin Mary was and is a perpetuall virgine, and that the same might be gathered by the scripture. But if by thys word expressed you meane comprehended, or conteyned, (as me thinke the minde of him that wrote the demaund should be) so that he meaneth by this question, thus: MarginaliaWhether any thing be to be beleued necessarily to saluatiō which is not contayned in scripture. whether any thyng ought to be obserued and beleued, whiche is not conteyned in scripture and that vpon necessitye of saluation) then I say, that there is nothing neither to bee obserued ne to be beleued vpō necessitie of saluatiō, which is not conteined in scripture, and mentioned in the same, either generally or specyally. Yet I do not deny but other thinges are to be beleued as I beleued that Doct. War ham was Byshop of Caunterbury, ere euer I sawe your Lordshyp: and I beleue that I knew verily, who was my father & mother, albeit I had none intelligence when they begot me, and such lyke: and yet in such pointes, although a man haue not a steady beliefe, he may be saued.

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MarginaliaAnswer to the 13. article.¶ To the xiij. where ye do aske whether I beleue þt purgatory is, and whether that soules departed be therein tormented & purged? MarginaliaA Purgatory in this world. I say that there is a Purgatory in this world, & that doth the scripture, and also the holy doctors call the fire of tribulation, thorow which all Christians shal passe, as testifieth Saint Paule in the second chapt. of the ij. Epistle to Timoth. Whose testimony is full notable and true, albeit that fewe do knowe it, and fewer peraduenture will beleue it. Marke you the wordes (good people) and know that they be his, and not myne. They be thus: All that will godly liue in Iesu Christ, shall suffer persecutiō. Marginalia2. Tim. 2.
The Purgatory of Christians.
In this Purgatory doe I now recken my selfe to stand: God send me well to perseuere vnto his honour. Of thys speaketh also S. Peter in these wordes which perteyne to the instruction of all Christen people: Virtute DEI custodimini per fidem ad salutem, quæ in hoc parata est vt patefiat in tempore supremo: in quo exultatis nunc, ad breue tempus, afflicti in varijs experimentis si opus sit, quo exploratio fidei vestræ multo preciosior auro quod perit, & tamen per ignem probatur, reperiatur in gloriam & honorem. Marginalia1. Pet. 1. Ye (quoth he) are preserued thorow the power of God by fayth, vnto saluation, which is prepared to be reuealed in the last tyme wherein ye now reioyse, though for a season (if neede require) ye are sundry wayes afflicted and tormented, that the triall of your fayth, beyng much more precious then golde that perisheth, though it be tryed with fire, might be founde vnto laude, glory, and honour at the appearing of Iesu Christ. &c. Other Purgatory know I none, þt you can proue by scripture, vnlesse it be by one place of the same, which well examined, I trowe, shall make but litle agaynst me, for the maintenaunce of any other then I haue shewed.

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But what soeuer be brought agaynst me, I trust that holy Doctours shall by their interpretation, sustayne the parte the which I do take vpon me, making aunswere for me sufficient, so that you shal say, it is no new thyng which I haue or shall speake: Yet that you should see euen now somewhat written of auncient Doctours concernyng the same, I shall shewe you what I haue read in S. Augustine: first in a sermon that he maketh De Ebrieate, in this wyse saying: Nemo se decipiat fratres: duo enim loca sunt, & tertius non est visus. Qui cum Christo regnare non meruit, cum diabolo absque vlla dubitatione peribit. MarginaliaNo third place by S. Austen. That is to say: Brethren, let no man deceiue hymselfe, for there be two places, and the third is not knowen. He that wt Christ hath not Marginalia* What our deseruing is, S. Augustine declareth before in the v. Article, Fol. 10[illegible text]4. * deserued to reigne, shal without doubt perish wyth the Deuill. In an other also that he maketh, De vanitate huius sæculi, it is sayde thus: Scitote vos, quod cum anima à corpore auellitur, statim in paradiso pro meritis bonis collocatur, aut certè pro peccatis, in inferni tartara precipitatur. Eligite modo quod vultis, aut perpetualiter gaudere cum Sanctis, aut sine fine cruciari cum impijs. MarginaliaNo Purgatory. Which is thus to say: Know you that when the soul is departed frō the body, it is incontinent, for his good dedes, put in paradise, or els throwen hedlong into the dungeon of hell, for his sinnes. Choose you now what ye liste, and purpose thys while you be here in thys life, eyther to ioy perpetually with Saintes, or els to be tormented wythout end among wicked sinners. Thus saith holy Augustine.

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To make an end, I hope surely that by the ayde of our Sauiour, I shall come to heauen and reigne wyth Christ, ere that I shall feele of any purgatory, beside that I haue and shall susteine in this life. And he that beleueth not stedfastly any other to be, shall yet be saued aswell (and God woteth whether better or no, but I thinke no whit lesse) as such as teach the people or suffer them to be taught, that in going from this station to that, from one altar to another they shall cause soules to be deliuered: yea, and aswell as suche as say MarginaliaThe third part of sinnes forgeuen them that be buryed in a graye Fryers weede. that a man being buryed in a gray Friers frock, shal so haue remission of the third part of his sinnes, as is graūted in a Bull vnto the sayd religion: and such like. MarginaliaAugust. in Enchiridio. For S. Augustine shall make with me in his booke called Enchiridion, after he hath confuted the opinion of some that in the Church of Christ, liuing in mischiefe vngratiously, taking therof no repentance, did yet falsly deem that they should be saued through the cleansing of purgatory: where he concludeth thus: Such a thing after this life to be (sayth he) is not vncredible, but whether it so be or no a doubt may be therof moued or a question demaunded. The same wordes doth he agayn recite in a booke called Quæstiones ad dulciū, or dulcitium. I wotte not whether he is called: and there he intreateth the same more copiously: and would I might see the place once agayne.

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