lyes thou speakest. And agayne I haue not forgotten howe stubburne thou wast, when thou wast before vs in the Tower, whereupō thou wast committed to pryson concerning religiō. I haue not forgotten thy behauiour and talke, wherethrough worthely thou hast bene kepte in pryson, as one that would haue done more hurt then I wyll speake of.[Back to Top]
Brad. My Lorde, as I sayd I saye agayn, that I stande as before you so before God, and one daye we shall all stande before him: the truthe than wylbe the truthe, though nowe you wyll not so take it: yea my Lorde, I dare saye that my Lorde of Bath maister Burne wyll wytnes with me, that I sought his sauegard, with the perill of mine owne lyfe, I thanke GOD therfore.[Back to Top]
Bon. That is not true: for I my selfe dyd see thee take vpon thee to muche.
Brad. No, I toke nothing vpon me vndesyred, and that of maister Burne him selfe, as if he were here present, I dare saye he would affirme. For he desired me bothe to helpe hym to pacifie the people, and also not to leaue hym til he was in safetie. And as for my behauiour in the Tower, and talke before your honours, if I did or sayde any thinge that did not beseme me, if your Lordships would tell me wherein it was, I should and would shortly make you aunswere.[Back to Top]
Chaun. Wel, to leaue this matter: how sayst thou now, wilt thou returne agayne, and doe as we haue done, and thou shalt receiue the Quenes mercie and pardon?
Brad. My Lorde, I desyre mercie with Gods mercie, but mercie with Goddes wrath, God kepe me from: Although, I thanke God therefore, my conscience doth not accuse me, that I did or spake any thing, wherfore I should nede to receiue the Quenes mercie or pardon. For all that euer I did or spake, was both agreing to Gods lawes, and the lawes of the Realme at that present, & did make much to quietnes.[Back to Top]
Chaun. Well, if thou make this bablyng, rolling in thy eloquent tongue, and yet beyng altogether ignoraunt, and vaine glorious, and wilt not receyue mercie offred to thee, MarginaliaThat is the worst you & your Pope can do and the best argumēt you haue.knowe for truthe that the Quene is mynded to make a purgation of all suche as thou art.[Back to Top]
Brad. The Lorde tofore whome I stande as well as before you, knoweth what vaynglorye I haue sought, & seke in this behalfe: his mercy I desire, and also would be glad of the Quenes fauour, to liue as a subiecte without clogge
Therfore his good will be done: life in his displeasure is worse then death, and death in his true fauour is true life.
Chaun. I knowe well inough that we shall haue glorious talke inough of the: be sure ther fore that as thou hast deceiued the people with false and deuelishe doctine, so shalt thou receyue.
Brad. I haue not deceiued the people, nor taught any other doctrine then by Gods grace I am, and hope shalbe ready to confirme with my life. And as for the deuelishenes and falsenes in the doctrine, I would be sory you could so proue it.
Dures. Why? tell me what you saye by the ministration of the communion as nowe you knowe it is?
Brad. My Lorde, here I muste desire of your Lordship, and of all your honours, a question tofore I dare make you an aunswer to any interrogatorie or question, MarginaliaBrad. asketh a question before he aunswereth an interrogatory. wherwith you nowe beginne. I haue bene sixe tymes sworne that I shall in no case consent to the practising of any iurisdiction, or any autoritie on the byshoppe of Romes behalf within this realme of Englād. Nowe before God I humblie praye your honours to tel me whether you aske me this question by his autoritie, or no? If you do, I dare not, nor may aunswere you any thynge in his autoritie you shall demaunde of me, except I would be forsworne, whiche God forbidde.[Back to Top]
Bourne is asking what positions Bradford has held which would have required his swearing so many oaths against papal supremacy in England.
Brad. Forsoth I was thryse sworne in Cambridge, when I was admitted maister of Art, when I was admitted fellowe of Penbroke hal. And whē I was there, the Visitours came thether and sware the Vniuersitie. Againe I was sworne whē I entred into the ministerie, when I had a prebende geuen me, and when I was sworne to serue the kinge a litle before his death.[Back to Top]
I.e., oaths that were forced or were invalid because they required the swearer to perform an evil action. The reference is to Herod Antipas's oath to Herodias which resulted in the execution of John the Baptist (Matthew 14:6-11; Mark 6:19-28).
Brad. But my Lorde, these were no Herodes othes, nor no vnlawfull othes, but othes according to Gods worde, as you your self haue well affirmed in your boke Marginaliaw. De vera obedientia.De vera obediētia.
Bradford is citing Gardiner's arguments in De Vera Obedientia (London, 1553), STC 11584, sigs. I3r-I4r.
M. Ro. My Lordes (quod another of the counsell that stode by the table, maister Rochester I wene) I neuer knewe wherfore this manne was in pryson before now: but I see well that it had not bene good that this man had been abroade: what so euer was the cause he was put in pryson I knowe not: but I nowe well knowe that without a cause he was and is to be kept in prison.[Back to Top]
Burn. Yea it was reported this parliament time by the Erle of Darby, that he hath done more hurt by letters, and exhortyng those that haue come to him in religion, then euer he did