were with me the last tyme: howe saye you? wyl you?
wood. Yes forsoth: I wyll answer to anye thing that you shal demaund of me, (by gods helpe) as wel as I can.
Chiches. How say you by the seuen sacramentes? for there we left of, and there we wil begin agayne: you sayd then there were but ii. how saye you now to it? wyll you deny all sauing two?
wood. I say now as I sayd then: you sayde there be seuen sacramentes, & I said I knew but two: but if you coulde approue seuen by gods word, when I cam before you agayne, I must nedes graunte them: and you saide, if you could not proue them by gods woord, I should not beleue them: and now I am come to se how wel you cā proue them. Herewith he was moued, and al his chaplains.[Back to Top]
Chiches. By god and by my trouth, I wene he thinketh I can not proue them: howe saie you to the sacramente of Matrimonye?
VVood Why my Lorde, saint Paule saith to Timothy: a bishop should be fautles: & you vse muche swearing, which is a great faulte in a Bishop of all other, that should be an example to the flocke. Then he and his prelats were in a great rage with mee, because I reproued him for his swearing.
Chiches. What? I perceiue this mā is wors then he was the laste daye, what? he takethe vpon him to teach me to speake, as though I could not tell what I had to doe.
Priest. So me thinketh my lord: he is a stout felow in dede as we haue seene.
wood. Yea, I am stout because I do that I am commaunded: I dare not for my life hold my peace. for I shuld beare sinne, the which I will not doo for none of you all, I tell you playnely.
Chiches. Where finde you that you are commaunded to reproue me?
wood. If thou see thy brother sinne, reproue him: if he repent, thou hast won thy brother. But you repent it not, me thinketh, but rather go aboute to maintaine the same. Christ saith, hee that breaketh one of the least of my commanndementes, & teacheth men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heauen: and you go about to teache men so, as far as I see.[Back to Top]
Priest. Why my Lord, this man is past cure. I see no hope in him.
Chich. No, so me thinketh. I wil neuer talk with him more, go cal M. Story. let him do wt hym what he will. He hath bene with his fellowes in the Marshalsea, & nowe he is worse then he was before. I had some hope in him the other day, but now I see none.
wood. No, I prayse God, my fayth hangeth vpon no men, but vpon God.
Priest. Nay, my Lorde, I thinke he is not the
worse for them: but I feare mee, they bee the worse for him: I knowe this man of olde, before myne old Lorde.
wood. Well my Lord, loke well to it: wyll you deliuer me to other men, to sheade my bloud, and so thinke to washe your handes of mee, as Pilate dyd by Christ? nay, you can not be so discharged.
Chich. I haue nothing to do with you: but of my gentlenes I haue sēt for you, because you said you would declare your mynd in any particular matter, that I would demaūd of you.
wood. Why? I do not deny but I will do so, if you demaund it of me. But you go about to deliuer me to other, to kill me: and I know that ther is none that hath to do with mee, but you.
Chiches. I am not consecrated yet: wherfore my Lorde Cardinall maye examine you, and condemne you, or my lord of London: for you are now in his dioces.
wood. Yea my Lord? is the matter euen so. Then I perceiue where about you go. Nay I wyll talke no more with you then, if you bee at that pointe. Aske me what you will: but I wil shew you nothing of my mind. I promise you, I will not answer in particular matters, and so you to accuse mee to other, and they to kill me.[Back to Top]
Chiches. I go not about to kill you, but wold be glad to heare your minde in the sacramentes, þt if you vnderstand them no arighte, I would be glad with al my harte to shew you my mind, how I vnderstand thē. For I wold you should do as well as mine owne selfe.
wood. Yf you would talke with me, to do me good, I would be content to here you, & shew you my minde: otherwise I woulde be loath.
Chiches. Nay I wil promise you, if I can doo you no good, I wyll do you no harme: for yf I ment to do you harm, I could lay your own hand writting agaynst you. But I wyll not. Wherfore be in no doute of me: how say you to the sacrament of matrimony? Is it a sacrament or no? how thinke you by it?
wood. I thinke it is a holye institution, ordeyned of God in Paradise, and so to contynue to the worldes ende.
Chiches. Lo, now you shal see howe you be deceyued in that, as you be in al the rest: come hither: you can reade Latine I am sure.
wood. Ye, I can reade Latin. But I vnderstand verye lytle.
Chiches. Come to mee. you shall see that Paule calleth it a holy sacrament. For these be the woordes: for this cause shal a man leaue father, and mother, and shalbe ioyned to hys wyfe: and two shalbe made one flesh. This is a greate sacrament.
VVood. I remember such a saying: but .S Paule calleth it not a sacrament. But hee