Boner. A, wilte thou so? before God, if thou hast not dissembled, thē thou nedest not to be afrayd, nor ashamed to answer for thy self. but tel me in faith, hast thou not dissembled?
Rafe. If I cannot haue mine accusers to accuse me before you, my cōsciēce doth cōstrayn me to accuse my self before you: For I confes þt I haue greuously offēded god in my dissimulation, at my last being before your Lordship, for þe which I am right sory, as god knoweth.
Boner. Wherein I praye thee diddest thou dissemble, when thou wast before me?
Rafe. For sothe my Lord, if youre Lordship remember, I did sette my hand vnto a certain writing, the cōtents wherof, as I remember, was that I did beleue in all thinges as the catholicke churche teacheth, &c. In the which I did not disburs my mynde, but shamfully dissembled, because I made no difference betwene þe true church and the vntrue church.[Back to Top]
Boner. Nay, but I praye thee let me heare more of this geare. For I feare me thou wilt smell as an hereticke anone. Which is þe true churche, as thou saiest? Doest thou not cal the heretickes churche the true church, or the catholicke church of Christ? Now which of these two are the true church as sayest thou? go to. for in faith I wil know of thee or I leaue the.[Back to Top]
Rafe. As concerninge the churche of heretickes, I vtterly abhorre the same, as detestable and abhominable before god, with al their enormities and heresies. And the church catholicke is it that I only embrace, whose doctrin is sincere, pure, and true.
Boner. By saint Augustine, but that is wel said of thee. For by God almighty if thou haddest allowed the church of heretikes, I would haue burned thee with fire for thy labour.
Morton. Then saide one Morton, beinge a priest: my lord, you know not yet what church it is, that he calleth catholicke. I warrant you he meaneth naughtely enough.
Boner. Think you so? Now by our blessed Lady, if it be so, he might haue deceiued me. How say you sirra, which is the catholike churche?
Rafe. Euen that whiche hathe receiued the wholsome sound, spoken of by Esay, Dauid, Malachy, and Paule, with manye other mo. The which sounde as it is written, hath gon throughout all the earth in euerye place, and vnto the endes of the world.
Boner. Yea, thou saiest true before God. For this is the soūd that hath gone throughout al Christendome, and hee that beleueth not the sound of the holy church, as S. Ciprian saith, doth erre. For he sayth, that who so euer is out of the church, is lyke vnto them that wer out of Noe hys shyp, when the flood came vpon al the whole world, so that the arke of Noe is lykened vnto the church: and therfore thou hast wel said in thy confession. For the church is not alone in Germany, or here in Englād,[Back to Top]
in the time of the late schismes, as the heretickes doth affirme. For if the church shoulde be there alone, then were Christ a lier. For he promised that the holy ghost shoulde come to vs, leade vs into all truthe, yea and remayne with vs vnto the end of the world. So now if we will take Christe for a true sayer, then must we nedes affirme, that the waye which is taught in Fraunce, Spayne, Italy, Flaunders, Denmark, Scotland, & al Christendom ouer, must nedes be the true catholick church.[Back to Top]
Rafe. My Lord, if you remember I spake of all the worlde, as it is written, and not of all christendom only, as me think your Lordship taketh it, the which kind of speaking you doo not finde in all the bible. For sure I am that the gospel hath bene bothe preached and persecuted in al landes: first, in Iury by the scribes and Pharisies, & since that tyme by Nero, Dioclesiā, and such like, & nowe here in these our daies, by, your Lordship knoweth whom. MarginaliaSupple Boner.for truth it is that the churche which you call catholike, is non otherwise catholik then was figured in Cayne, obserued of Ieroboam, Ahab, Iesabell, Nabugadonoser, Antiochus, Herod, with innumerable more of þe like. And as both Daniel & Esdras maketh mencion of these last daies, by a playne prophecy, & now fulfilled as appeareth, & affirmed by our sauiour Christ, and his, Apostels saying: ther shal come greuous wolues to deuoure the flocke.[Back to Top]
Boner. Now by the blessed sacrament of the aulter, maister Mortō, he is the rankest hereticke that euer came before me. how say you? haue you heard the like?
Morton. I thought what he was, my Lord, at the firste, I.
Boner. Now by all Hallowes thou shalt be brent with fire for thy lieng, thou horson verlet & pricklouse, thou. Dost thou find a prophecy in Daniel of vs? nay ye knaue, it is of you þt he speaketh of, & of your false pretensed holynes. Go to, let me heare what is the saieng of Esdras, and take heede ye make not a lye, I aduise you.[Back to Top]
Rafe. The saing of Esdras is this: the heat of a great multitude is kindled ouer you, and they shall take awaye certein of you, and fede the Idole with idoles, and he that consenteth vnto them, shallbe had in derision, laughed to scorne, and troden vnder foote, yea they shall be lyke mad men. for they shall spare no man, they shal spoile & wast such as feare þe lord. &c.[Back to Top]
Boner. And haue you taken this thinge to make your market good? Ah syrra, wilt thou so? by my faith a prety instruction, & a necessary thing to be taught among the people. By my trouth I thinke ther be no more of this opiniō. I pray the tell me. Is ther any that vnderstādeth this scripture on this fashion? Before god, I think ther be none in al Englād but þu.[Back to Top]