attentyue to heare hym sette foorth the same, whyche he sayeth he dyd not. And sayeth also that the sayde Byshoppe intreatyng in hys sayde Sermon of the Byshoppe of Rome, and other artycles, the specialtyes whereof he dothe not nowe remember, handled them in doubted sorte, that thys Deponente at that tyme, iudged it muche better, that the sayde byshoppe hadde not spoken of them at all, than doe as he dyd.[Back to Top]
To the tenth artycle he sayeth, that he cannot depose of the commandemente geuen. But he hearde the sayde byshoppe in hys sayde Sermon speake bothe of the Masse and of the Communion, then commonlye called the sacramente of the Altar. To the residewe he sayeth he cannot certaynely depose, but that he hathe harde so reported.[Back to Top]
Examined also vppon the fyrste Interrogatorye mynistred by the byshoppe, sayth that he thynketh the sayde bishoppe dyd not speake particulate nor the lyke: for he dothe not remember he hearde hym speake so or lyke.
¶ Syr Thomas Smyth Knyghte, of the age of xxxiii. yeares. sworne and examined.
To the fyrste, seconde, and thyrde Artycle, he sayeth that they conteyne truthe.
To the fourth, he knoweth it not.
To the fyfth, he beleueth the same to bee true.
To the sixth, and seuenth artycles, he sayeth that he thynkes the contentes of the same to bee true: but he sayeth he hath no certayne knowledge thereof.
To the eyght, he sayeth it is true, so farre as he shall hereafter consequentlye declare. For he sayeth that vppon such complayntes and admonitions as are there specifyed, as myghte appeare in the procedynges of the Counsell. My Lorde of Somerset, then Protector, sente diuers tymes this deponente to the sayde byshoppe to trauayle with hym, to agree to certayne of the kynges maiestyes procedynges, and to promyse to sette them foorth in Sermon or otherwyse. And so this deponente dyd trauell, and Mayster Cicill also. And hereuppon certayne artycles, by commaundemente of the kynges Maiesties councell were drawen foorth by this deponente, and Mayster Cicyll: To the whiche the sayde byshoppe shoulde shewe hys consente, and to agree to preache and sette foorth the same. And after diuerse tymes of trauaylyng with the sayde bishop as well by this deponente, as by the sayde Mayster Cicill, to bryng the sayde byshoppe to a conformitye herein, and vppon some hope of conformytye, the sayde byshoppe was sent for by the Lordes of the counsayle, to the Palace at Westminster into a chaumber in the Gardyne there, and there he had the artycles (the effect wherof he saith is mētioned and contayned in this artycle, wrytten to hym in a shete of Paper) to debate and deliberate with hymselfe vppon them. Then, and there was sente vnto hym the Lorde of Wylshyre to trauell wyth hym, to bryng hym to a full agreemente, to settefoorth the sayde artycles. And after the sayde byshoppe hadde shewed to the sayde Lorde, (as the sayde Lorde reported to the Counsayle) some conformitye therein: The sayde Lorde of Wyltshyre wyth thys Deponente to wayte on hym, was eftsones sent to the sayde Byshoppe, to take his fynall resolution: At whose commyng, the sayde Byshoppe shewed greate conformitye, to bee wyllyng to sette foorth the sayde artycles in hys Sermon, or otherwyse, as it shoulde seme mete to the Counsayle. Onelye he requyred not to haue his lesson geuen vnto hym in wrytyng as a boy. For so he termed it: but that it myghte bee putte to hys discrecion: and so he would dooe it better then they looked for. Vppon this relation to the Lordes of the Counsayle then syttyng, the sayde Byshoppe was sente for vp to the Counsayle chamber, and then and there before the Lordes of the Counsayle then present he made the same requeste: and at muche entreatye of hym, and great shewe of conformitye to dooe it made, a daye was appoynted vnto hym to preache a Sermon, in the whiche he shoulde declare all those arty-cles: And he than, and there commaunded to doe it, and promyssed to dooe them muche better, and more for theyre myndes, then it was in the artycles. Marrye for order, he requyred to brynge them in as hys matter serued. And the more to perswade the Lordes herein, he vsed these perswasions: that it was ashame for hym, who hath bene noted for a learned manne, to haue his lesson taughte hym as a boy: and that he hadde bene trusted wyth Embassage, and greater matters then these: And (sayd he) if I should deceiue you my Lordes. I am still in your handes: I am in your order. Vppon thys, he the sayde Byshoppe hadde the sayde articles lefte wythe hym, whiche conteyne in effecte those matters whiche are mentioned in thys article. And that the sayde deponent remembreth the better. for dyuers hadd coppies then deliuered of the articles: Whereof one coppie Maister Doctor Coxe hadde, of this Deponentes clerkes writing. Those articles, the sayde Byshoppe was commaunded to preache. A daye was geuen hym, and he promised to doo it, and so he was dymyssed at that tyme. The nexte daye, thys Deponente saythe, that he departed from the Courte, and tooke hys iorneye towardes Flaunders. And therefore howe the sayde Byshoppe preached, he cannot tell.[Back to Top]
Vppon the other articles, he sayth, he cannot certaynlye despose vppon the contentes of them.
To the fyrst he sayth, he was not at hys sermon and therefore cannot answere therto.
To the seconde, and the thyrd, he canne nothynge declare therof.
¶ Maister Richard Coxe Doctor of Dyuini-ty, Almoner to the Kings maiestye of thage of. Li. yeares, sworne and examyned, of and vpon certayne articles, mynistred agaynst the Byshoppe of Winchester.
To the fyrste, second, and thyrd articles, he sayth they are true.
To the thyrd article, he cannot depose
To the fyfte article, he sayth it is true.
To the sixt article, he answereth, that he was complayned vppon as he heard saye, by Doctor Ayre, and Doctor Tonge, vnto the kinges Maiestyes counsayl. For the sayd doctor Ayre and Doctor Tonge, beinge prebendaries in Winchester, were sente together by the kinge, to preache and sette furth the kinges proceadinges for asmuch as the Byshop there hadde preached agaynste hys mayestyes sayd proceadinges. and that the sayd doctor Ayre, and Doctor Tonge shewed vnto this Dcponente, that the sayd byshoppe entred before them into the pulpyt, and there sayde: I here saye that there be preachers sent vnto my dyoces to preache. I truste you wyll beleue no doctrine but suche as I haue taughte you: you wyll not beleue them, that you nener harde before: whereuppon the audience of the sayde preachers, Doctor Tonge, and Doctor Ayer, was but verye slender. Beinge demaunded what tyme it was, he sayeth it was, more then two yeres and a halfe nowe paste, as farre as he nowe remembreth.[Back to Top]
To the seuenth article, he saith it conteigneth truth as he hard saye.
To the eighte article, he answereth that the contents therin are trewe. For so he harde certayne of the Kinges maiestyes Counsayle: videlicet, my Lorde of Somerset my Lorde Paget Syr Thomas Smithe and other: and also he harde it of the Kinges maiestye hym self. Beinge demaunded aboute what tyme, hee answereth that it was about the tyme articulate.[Back to Top]
To the ninthe, vnto this place (his highnes raigne) he answereth and beleueth, that that parte is trewe for that he hard it spoken of the Kinges Maiesty and the Duke of Somerset, & to the other part of the sayde articles, he sayeth that the sayd byshop in his sayde sermō made vpō saint Peters day, before the kīgs maiesty[Back to Top]