Thematic Divisions in Book 12
1. Exhumations of Bucer and Phagius along with Peter Martyr's Wife2. Pole's Visitation Articles for Kent3. Ten Martyrs Burnt at Canterbury4. The 'Bloody Commission'5. Twenty-two Prisoners from Colchester6. Five Burnt at Smithfield7. Stephen Gratwick and others8. Edmund Allen and other martyrs9. Edmund Allen10. Alice Benden and other martyrs11. Examinations of Matthew Plaise12. Richard Woodman and nine other martyrs13. Ambrose14. Richard Lush15. The Martyrdom of Simon Miller and Elizabeth Cooper16. Rose Allin and nine other Colchester Martyrs17. John Thurston18. George Eagles19. Richard Crashfield20. Fryer and George Eagles' sister21. Joyce Lewes22. Rafe Allerton and others23. Agnes Bongeor and Margaret Thurston24. John Kurde25. John Noyes26. Cicelye Ormes27. Persecution at Lichfield28. Persecution at Chichester29. Thomas Spurdance30. Hallingdale, Sparrow and Gibson31. John Rough and Margaret Mearing32. Cuthbert Simson33. William Nicholl34. Seaman, Carman and Hudson35. Three at Colchester36. A Royal Proclamation37. Roger Holland and other Islington martyrs38. Stephen Cotton and other martyrs39. Scourging of Thomas Hinshaw40. Scourging of John Milles41. Richard Yeoman42. John Alcocke43. Thomas Benbridge44. Four at St Edmondsbury45. Alexander Gouch and Alice Driver46. Three at Bury47. A Poor Woman of Exeter48. The Final Five Martyrs49. John Hunt and Richard White50. John Fetty51. Nicholas Burton52. John Fronton53. Another Martyrdom in Spain54. Baker and Burgate55. Burges and Hoker56. The Scourged: Introduction57. Richard Wilmot and Thomas Fairfax58. Thomas Greene59. Bartlett Greene and Cotton60. Steven Cotton's Letter61. James Harris62. Robert Williams63. Bonner's Beating of Boys64. A Beggar of Salisbury65. Providences: Introduction66. The Miraculously Preserved67. William Living68. Edward Grew69. William Browne70. Elizabeth Young71. Elizabeth Lawson72. Christenmas and Wattes73. John Glover74. Dabney75. Alexander Wimshurst76. Bosom's wife77. Lady Knevet78. John Davis79. Mistress Roberts80. Anne Lacy81. Crosman's wife82. Congregation at Stoke in Suffolk83. Congregation of London84. Englishmen at Calais85. Edward Benet86. Jeffrey Hurst87. William Wood88. Simon Grinaeus89. The Duchess of Suffolk90. Thomas Horton 91. Thomas Sprat92. John Cornet93. Thomas Bryce94. Gertrude Crockhey95. William Mauldon96. Robert Horneby97. Mistress Sandes98. Thomas Rose99. Troubles of Sandes100. Complaint against the Ipswich Gospellers101. Tome 6 Life and Preservation of the Lady Elizabeth102. The Unprosperous Queen Mary103. Punishments of Persecutors104. Foreign Examples105. A Letter to Henry II of France106. The Death of Henry II and others107. Justice Nine-Holes108. John Whiteman109. Admonition to the Reader110. Hales' Oration111. The Westminster Conference112. Appendix notes113. Ridley's Treatise114. Back to the Appendix notes115. Thomas Hitton116. John Melvyn's Letter117. Alcocke's Epistles118. Cautions to the Reader119. Those Burnt at Bristol: extra material120. Priest's Wife of Exeter121. Snel122. Laremouth123. William Hunter's Letter124. Doctor Story125. The French Massacre
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Queene Mary. The examination and aunsweres of Richard Woodman Martyr.

MarginaliaAnno 1557. Iune.and he came to me: and then I told him my mind, & what promise I had made: and he said, he would send for you on the morow, as he did, and the messēger brought word you could not come: you preached before the Queene, he sayde. Wherupon the Sheriffe came vp himselfe, and spake to the MarginaliaThis Byshop was D. Christopherson.Bishop that he should come downe, but he was sicke. So when he came home agayne, he sent me to the Bishop, and I haue talked with him twise already, and I am sure he can find no fault in me, if he say iustly: MarginaliaWoodman sent to pryson not knowing wherefore.and yet I know not wherefore I was sent to prison: For I was not guilty of that whiche was layde to my charge, that I had baptised children, the which I neuer did, as God knoweth: wherefore I haue wrong to be thus handled.

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D. Lang. In deed it hath bene reported that you haue christened children, & that you christened your owne child: but since I heard say you would not haue the child christened, which is a damnable way, if you deny baptisme: MarginaliaRichard Woodman falsely slaūdered for denying baptising of children.and they sayd, your child was not christened in a fourtnight or three weekes after it was borne, and the chiefest of the Parishe were fayne to fetch it out of your house agaynst your wyll. Wherefore you wrote rayling wordes agaynst the Prieste and them for theyr good will: the which declareth that you allowe not baptising of children. And if the childe had dyed, it had bene damned, because it was not Christened, and you shoulde haue bene damned, because you were the lette thereof.

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Wood. What abhominable lies haue you told? Be you not ashamed to speake such wordes as you haue done? Fyrste you say, I christened mine owne childe, and by and by you sayd, I denyed baptising of childrē, and that my child was a fortnight or three weekes old ere it was baptised. What abhominable lyes be these? I neither baptised my child my selfe, neither held agaynst the baptising of it, but did moste gladlye allowe it: for it was baptised as soone as it was borne, and I was glad therof: 

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Woodman is concerned here to maintain that, even though he was an active preacher, despite being a layman, he did not administer the sacraments.

therfore you be to blame to report so of me.

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Lang. I pray you, who baptised it? some vnthrift of your prouiding.

MarginaliaWoodmans childe baptised by the midwyfe. MarginaliaWoodman falsely belyed.Wood. Nay surely the Midwife baptised it.

Lang. But it was your mind that it should be so.

Wood. Nay sure, I was not nie home by almost xx. miles nor heard that my wife was brought to bed four dayes after the child was christened. For it was not like to liue: & therfore the Midwife baptised it.

MarginaliaD. Langdale to curious an Inquistour.Lang. Would you haue had it to church to haue bene christened, if it had not bene christened?

Wood. That is no matter what I woulde haue yone. I am sure you can not denye but it is sufficiently done, if the Midwife do it, and I hold not agaynst the doing of it, neither did I it my selfe, as you sayd I did.

Lang. Wherfore were you displeased with them that fet it to Church?

Wood. First tell me whether the child were not truely baptised by the Midwife?

Langd. Yes, it was truely Baptised, if shee Baptised it in the name of the Father, and of the Sonne, and of the holye Ghost.

MarginaliaWoodman troubled without iust cause.Wood. Yes that I am sure shee did, and you graunte that was sufficient: and the cause that I blamed them for, was because they did more to it then neede was, by your owne saying. Yea, they fet it out of my house without my leaue: the which was not well done.

Lang. They had it to Church to confirme that was done.

Wood. Yea, but that was more then needs. But God forgeue them, if it be his will. But let that matter passe. But I would you should not say that I hold agaynst baptising of children, for I doe not, I take God to recorde: but doe allowe it to be most necessary, if it be truely vsed. But me thought you spake wordes euen now that were vncomely to be spoken: if a childe die, & be not baptised, it is damned. How thinke you? be all damned that receiue not the outward signe of baptisme?

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Lang. Yea that they be.

Wood. How proue you that?

MarginaliaAll childrē be damned by Doctour Langdale, which dye without baptisme.Lang. Goe, sayth Christ, and baptise in the name of the father, and of the Sonne, and of the holy Ghost, and he that beleueth, and is baptised, shalbe saued: and he that beleueth not shalbe damned. These be the wordes of Christ, which are my warrant.

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Wood. Then by your saying, baptisme bringeth fayth, and all that be Baptised in the water, shall be saued: shall they? how say you?

MarginaliaAll childrē being baptised by D. Langdale, shall be saued.Lang. Yea, that they shall: if they die before they come to discretiō, they shalbe saued euery one of them, and all that be not baptised shall be damned euery one of them.

Wood. Then my spirite was moued with him to reprooue him sharply, because I had manifest scriptures fresh in my mind agaynst his saying. Then sayd I.

O Lord God, how dare you speake suche blasphemye agaynst God and his word, as you doe? howe dare you for your life to take vpon you to preache, & teach the people, & vnderstand not what you say? MarginaliaRichard Woodmad chargeth D. Langdale with ignorance in the scriptures.For I protest before GOD you vnderstande not the scriptures, but as far as naturall reason can comprehēd. For if you did, you would be ashamed to speake as you do.

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Lang. Wherein haue I spoken amisse? take heede, you haue a toy in your head wil make you dispayre. I dare say you can not tell what you say. Wherefore reproue you me as you do?

Wood. Because you blaspheme GOD: and as for dispayring, take heed to your selfe. For I can not see but you be out of your wit alreadye. and as for me, I prayse God, I can tell what I say, and what you haue sayd: the whiche shall turne to your shame, if you wil talke the Scriptures with me.

So, when hee perceiued that I spake earnestlye, and challenged hym to talke by the woorde, his colour began to chaunge, and his fleshe beganne to tremble and quake. And I sayd.

Proue your sayinges true, if you can: for I will proue them false, by Gods helpe. You sayd. All children, or other that be not baptised with water, all shall be damned. I dare not say so, for all the good in the worlde. And you brought in the saying of Christ for your warrant. In the xvi. of Marke it is written: Who so beleueth, and is baptised, shalbe saued: which words be very true: and who so beleueth not, shalbe damned. Which words be very true also. He sayeth: He that beleueth not, shalbe damned. Yea S. Iohn sayeth: He that beleueth not is condemned already, because he beleueth not. But neither of these two scriptures, nor no other scriptures in all the newe Testament sayth, that he that is not baptised, shalbe damned, or is damned already. But if he beleue not, he shalbe damned, and is damned already, as is aforesayd. Then he woulde haue interrupted me, & would haue layd to my charge, that I was an Anabaptist. But I wold geue him no place to speake, but sayd:

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Let me make an end, and then say what you can. You shall haue as much to doe, by Gods helpe, with this matter, as euer you had to aunsweare thing in your life. You knowe (I am sure) it is no maner  

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{Cattley/Pratt alters 'maner' to 'manners' in the text.} All the old editions read, "it is no maner."

to plucke a tale out of a mans mouth, nor it is not the order of reasoning, as you know better then I can tell you. Then Doctor Langdale bade me say on.

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MarginaliaFayth, not Baptisme saueth. MarginaliaNot lacke of Baptisme, but lacke of fayth condemneth.Wood. My saying was, that they that beleue not, shall be danmed, and be dāned already. But I dare not say, for all the goods vnder heauen, that all they that receiue no materiall baptisme by the water, shall be damned, as you haue sayd: yet I would you should not gather of these wordes that I denye Baptisme, as you were aboute to laye to my charge, or euer I had halfe tolde my tale. But I would not haue you, nor no man so rash in iudgement, to cōdemn the thing þt they are not able to proue by the worde, & to make it seme to the simple, that the outward washing of the water were the cause of fayth.

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Langd. Why, is it not so? will you denye it? Howe say you? Will you deny it? I say, the childe hath no fayth before it is baptised: and therefore the baptising bringeth the fayth. MarginaliaBaptising of water is not the cause of fayth. The Catholicks do hold the contrary. How say you to it? Make me a playne answere to this question.

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Wood. Nowe I perceiue you goe about nothing els, but to take vauntage of my wordes. But by Gods helpe, I will aunswere you so, that you shall well see your sayings vntrue. And yet I will not speak mine owne wordes, but the wordes of the holy Ghost, out of the mouth of the prophets and Apostles: and then aske them whether they wil deny it.

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You sayd, that fayth commeth by Baptisme, had by the vse of material water. MarginaliaA Catholicke paradoxe. I must be so bold to aske you where Iacob was baptised before he had fayth. S. Paul sayth in the ninth chapter to the Romanes: Or euer the childrē were borne, or euer they had done eyther good or bad, MarginaliaThe purpose of Gods election standeth by grace and not by reason of workes.that the purpose of God which is by election, might stand, not by the reason of workes, but by the grace of the caller, the elder shall serue the younger. Iacob I haue loued, and Esau I hated. How think you, had this childe fayth or euer he were borne, or no? answere to this, if you can.

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Lang. What, you speake of the olde Lawe, Iacob was not christened, but circumcised. I speake of Baptisme and you are gone from baptising to the time of Circumcision: answere me to the baptising. And me thinke by your talk, you deny originall sinne and free will, by the wordes that you brought in of S. Paule.

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MarginaliaDoctor Langdales Argumēt,
Children dying without Baptisme may be saued.
Ergo, children haue no originall sinne.
For if children can bee saued without baptisme, then it must needes follow, that children haue no originall sinne, the which is put away in the baptising. But I thinke you know not what originall sinne is, nor free will neyther

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