Cole. Did you neuer consente to the setting out of those thinges, whiche you allowed?

Rid. I graūt that I saw the boke. But I deny that I wrate it. I perused it after it was made, and I noted many thinges for it. So I consented to the booke, I was not the autor of it.

Iudges. The Catechisme is so set fourthe, as though the whole cōuocation house had agreed to it. Crāmer sayd yesterday that you made it.

Rid. I thinke surely that he wold not say so.

ward. The Catechisme hath this clause. Si visibiliter & in terra &c. i. If visibly and on the earth. &c.

Rid. I aunswere that those articles were set out, I both wetyng and consenting to them. Myne owne hande wyll testifie the same, and maister Cranmer he put his hand to them lykewyse, and gaue them to other aftreward. Now, as for the place whiche you allege out of it, that may easely be expounded, and without any inconuenience.

ward. Christ is the power and vertue of his father.

Ergo he was not of so litle strengthe, that he could not bryng to passe whatsoeuer he would hym selfe.

Rid. I graunt.

Ward. Christe was the wysdome of the father.

Ergo that he spake he spake wysely, and so as euery man might vnderstande, neyther was it his mynde to speake one thing in steede of an other.

Rid. All this I graunt.

Ward. Christe was likewyse the verie truthe.

Ergo he made and perfourmed in deede that whiche he entended to make.

And likely it is, that he doth neither deceiue, nor could be deceiued, nor yet would go about to deceiue other.

West. Hilarius in Psalmum. 118. hath these wordes. Vera omnia sunt, & ne ociosè, & ne inutiliter constituta dei verba, sed extra omnem ambiguitatem superfluæ inanitatis, ignita, & ignita vehementer, ne quid illic esse, quod non perfectum ac proprium sit, existimetur. That is.

All gods wordes or sayinges are true, and neither idely placed nor vnprofitable, but fiery and fiery agayne  

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Foxe added the word 'wonderful' to Hilary's commentary on Psalm 118 (cf. 1563, p. 969 with 1570, p. 1616; 1576, p. 1378; 1583, p. 1449).

Warde. He is the truthe of the father.

Ergo he can neither deceiue nor yet be deceiceiued, especially I meane, whē he spake at his latter ende, and made his testament.

Rid. Christ is the very truthe of the father: and I perceiue well to what scope you dryue your reason. This is but a farre fet compasse of wordes. If that those words of Christ (this is my body) whiche you meane, be ryghtly vnderstoode, they are moste true.

VVard. He toke, he brake, he gaue &c. what toke he?

Rid. Bread, his body.

VVard. What brake he?

Rid. Bread.

VVard. What gaue he?

Rid. Bread.

VVard. Gaue he bread made of wheate and materiall bread.?

Rid. I know not whether he gaue bread of wheate: but he gaue true and materiall bread.

VVard. I will proue the contrary by the scriptures.

He deliuered them that whiche he bad them take,

But he bad not them take materiall bread, but his owne body.

Ergo he gaue not materiall bread but his owne body.

Rid. I denie the minor. For he bad them take his body sacramētally in material bread: and after that sort it was both bread, whiche he bad them take, because the substaunce was bread: and it was also his body, because it was the sacrament of his body, for the sanctifiyng and the comming to of the holy Ghost, whiche is alwayes assistent to those misteries whiche were instituted of Christe, and lawfully administred.

Harps. What is he that so sayeth: videlicet, (Per acceßionem spiritus sancti.) By the commyng vnto of the holy spirite?

Rid. I haue Theophilact myne autor for this maner of speakyng. And here I brynge hym, that ye may vnderstande that phrase not to be mine. on Math 26. Furthermore he saiyng (This is my body) sheweth, MarginaliaTheophilact. that the bodye of the Lord is bread, which is sanctified on the altar.

Ogle. That place of Theophilacte maketh openly against you. For he sayth in that place, that Christ sayd not (this is a figure of my body, but my body). for, sayeth he, by an vnspeakable operation it is transformed, although it seme to vs to be bread.

Rid. It is not a figure, that is to say (non tantum est figura) it is not onely a figure of his body.

VVest. Where haue you that worde (tantū) onely?

Rid. It is not in that place, but he hath it in an other, and Austen dothe so speake many tymes, and other Doctors mo.

VVest. Here Weston repeting the wordes of Theophilacte in Englyshe, sayeth: MarginaliaThis Weston spake in Englishe. he sayth it is not a figure, and you say it is a figure.

And the same Theophilacte sayeth moreouer: That the conuersion or turnynge of the bread is made into the Lordes flesh:

That whiche Christ gaue we do geue.

But that whiche he gaue was not a figure of his body, but his body.

Ergo we giue no figure but his body.

☞ As concerning the autoritie of Theophilactus, what he thought, and myght haue spoken of that autor, Doctor Ridley did not then speake, nor could conueniently (as he him selfe afterwarde declared, repor-