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Pole's Visitation Articles for Kent153. Ten Martyrs Burnt at Canterbury154. The 'Bloody Commission'155. Twenty-two Prisoners from Colchester156. Five Burnt at Smithfield157. Stephen Gratwick and others158. Edmund Allen and other martyrs159. Edmund Allen160. Alice Benden and other martyrs161. Richard Woodman and nine other martyrs162. Ambrose163. The Martyrdom of Simon Miller and Elizabeth Cooper164. Rose Allin and nine other Colchester Martyrs165. John Thurston166. Thomas More167. George Eagles168. Richard Crashfield169. Fryer and George Eagles' sister170. John Kurde171. Cicelye Ormes172. Joyce Lewes173. Rafe Allerton and others174. Agnes Bongeor and Margaret Thurston175. Persecution at Lichfield176. Persecution at Chichester177. Thomas Spurdance178. Hallingdale, Sparrow and Gibson179. John Rough and Margaret Mearing180. Cuthbert Simson181. William Nicholl182. Seaman, Carman and Hudson183. Three at Colchester184. A Royal Proclamation185. Roger Holland and other Islington martyrs186. Richard Yeoman187. John Alcocke188. Alcocke's Epistles189. Thomas Benbridge190. Stephen Cotton and other martyrs191. Alexander Gouch and Alice Driver192. Three at Bury193. The Final Five Martyrs194. William Living195. The King's Brief196. William Browne197. Some Persecuted at Suffolk198. Elizabeth Lawson199. Edward Grew200. The Persecuted of Norfolk201. The Persecuted of Essex202. Thomas Bryce203. The Persecuted in Kent204. The Persecuted in Coventry and the Exiles205. Thomas Parkinson206. The Scourged: Introduction207. Richard Wilmot and Thomas Fairfax208. Thomas Greene209. Bartlett Greene and Cotton210. Steven Cotton's Letter211. Scourging of John Milles212. Scourging of Thomas Hinshaw213. Robert Williams214. Bonner's Beating of Boys215. A Beggar of Salisbury216. John Fetty217. James Harris218. Providences: Introduction219. The Miraculously Preserved220. Christenmas and Wattes221. Simon Grinaeus222. John Glover223. Dabney224. Alexander Wimshurst225. Bosom's wife226. The Delivery of Moyse227. Lady Knevet228. Crosman's wife229. Congregation at Stoke in Suffolk230. Congregation of London231. Robert Cole232. Englishmen at Calais233. John Hunt and Richard White234. Punishments of Persecutors235. Tome 6 Life and Preservation of the Lady Elizabeth236. The Westminster Conference237. Nicholas Burton238. Another Martyrdom in Spain239. Baker and Burgate240. Burges and Hoker241. Justice Nine-Holes242. Back to the Appendix notes243. A Poor Woman of Exeter244. Those Burnt at Bristol: extra material245. Priest's Wife of Exeter246. Gertrude Crockhey
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is: that the mistery of the sacrament, geuen as they wer at supper, is not the supper of the Lorde. And Gregory Nazianzene saith the same.

Rursus Pascha sacra cum discipulis in cænaculo ac post cœnam, dieque vnica ante passionem celebrat. Nos vero ea in orationis domibus, et ante cœnam & post resurrectionem peragimus.

That is: Agayne he kept the holy feast of Passeouer, with his disciples in the dynyng chamber, after the supper, & one day before his passion. But we kepe it, both in the churches and houses of prayer, both before the supper and also after the resurrection.

And that first supper was called ἀγὰπη: cā you tell what that is?

Lat. I vnderstande no Greke. Yet I thinke it meaneth Charitie.

west. Wil you haue al thing done that Christ did then? Why? then muste the priest bee hanged on the morowe. And where finde you, I praye you, that a woman should receiue the sacrament?

Lat. Wyll you geue me leaue to tourne my booke? I finde it in the xi. Chapter to the Corinthiās. I trow these be his words. Probet autem seipsum homo &c. I praye you good maister, what gendre is homo?

west. Marye the common gendre.

Cole. It is in the Greke ὁ ἀντθροπος.

Hard. It is ανηρ that is vir.

Lat. It is in my booke of Erasmus translation, probet seipsum homo. 

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There was an omission in the Rerum account. Latimer's comment 'It is in my booke of Erasmus translation, Probet se ipsum homo' (1563, p. 981; 1570, p. 1624; 1576, p. 1385; 1583, p. 1456; this is not in Rerum, p. 690). This omission was probably inadvertent.

Feck. It is probet seipsum in dede: and therefore it importeth the Masculine gendre.

Lat. What then? I trowe when the woman touched him, Christe sayde: Quis tetegit me? scio quod aliquis me tetegit: That is: who touched me? I knowe that some man touched me.

west. I will be at host with you anone. Whē Christe was at his supper, none were wyth him but his Apostles onely.

Ergo, he ment no woman: yf you wyl haue this institution kept.

Lat. In the twelue Apostles was represented the hole Churche, in whiche you wil graūt bothe menne and women to bee.

west. So throughe the whole Hereticallye translated Byble, ye neuer make mention of Priest, tyll ye come to the puttyng of Christe to death: where finde you then that a prieste or minister, (a minstrell I maye call hym well ynough) shoulde dooe it of necessitie?

Lat. A minister is a more fit name for that office: for the name of a priest importeth a sacryfice.

west. Well, remember that ye cannot fynde that a woman may receiue, by scripture. Mayster Opponent, fal to it.

Smith Because I perceyue that this charge is layde vppon my necke, to dispute with you: to the ende that the same may goe foreward after a right maner and order, I wyll propose three questions, so as they are put foorth vnto me. And firste I aske this question of you, although the same in dede ought not to be called

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in question: But suche is the condition of the Churche, that it is alwayes vexed of the wicked sorte. I aske (I saye) whether Christes body be really in the sacrament?

Lat. I truste I haue obtained of my good master Prolocutour, that no man shal exact that thinge of me, whiche is not in me. And I am sory that this woorshipfull audience shall bee deceiued of theyr expectation for my sake. I haue geuen vp my mynde in writyng to mayster Prolocutour.

Smtih. Whatsoeuer ye haue geuen vp, it shal be registred among the actes.

Lat. Disputation requireth a good memorie: Ast abolita est mihi memoria: my memorye is gone cleane, and marueylously weakened, and neuer the better Iwis for the prison.

west. How long haue ye bene in prison?

Lat. These thre quarters of this yeare.

west. And I haue bene in prison these 6. yeres.

Lat. The more pitye good Mayster.

west. How long haue you bene of this opiniō?

Lat. It is long Syr, since I haue bene of this opinion. 

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In later editions, Latimer states, 'It is not long, Syr, since I have bene of this opinion' (1570, p. 1624; 1576, p. 1386; 1583, p. 1456); in 1563 (p 981) he says, 'It is long, Syr, since I have bene of this opinion'. (The 1563 version was clearly in error for the Rerum reads: 'Non valde diu, a bone').

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west. Ye haue sayde masse at Grenewyche full deuoutely. 

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In the edition of 1563, Weston says, 'Ye have sayde masse at Grenewyche full devoutely' (1563, p. 981), while in later editions this is rendered: 'The tyme hath bene when you sayd Masse full devoutly' (1570, p. 1624; 1576, p. 1386; 1583, p. 1456). (Rerum, p. 690, does not mention Greenwich in its translation of the remark).

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Lat. Yea, I crie god mercy hartely for it.

MarginaliaThen they hist & clapt their hādes at hym.

west. Where learned you, this newfāglenes?

Lat. I haue long sought for the truth in this matter of the sacrament, and haue not bene of this minde, past seuen yeares: and my Lord of Canterbury his booke 

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The text Latimer repeatedly cited as 'Cranmer's book' was Thomas Cranmer, A defence of the true and catholike doctrine of the sacrament of the body and bloud of Christ (STC 6000-6002).

hath especially confyrmed my iudgement herein. If I coulde remember all, therein conteyned, I woulde not feare to aunswere any manne in this matter.

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Tresh. There are in that booke sixe hundred errours.

west. You were once a Lutheran.

Lat. No, I was a Papist: For I neuer could perceiue how Luther could defende his opinion without Transubstantiation. The Tygurines once did wryte a boke agaynst Luther: & I ofte desyred God, that he myght liue so long to make them aunswere.

west. Luther in his boke de priuata Missa, said that the deuyll reasoned with him, and persuaded hym that the masse was not good, 

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Weston, in alleging that Luther declared the devil taught him that the mass was evil (1563, p. 981; 1570, p. 1624; 1576, p. 1386; 1583, p. 1456), was repeating a charge levelled at Luther by Johannes Cochlaeus and repeated by such leading polemicists as Fredericus Staphylus, Stanislaus Hosius and Nicholas Harpsfield. It was based on Luther's declaring, in the work cited by Weston, that the devil tempted him to despair by charging him with hypocrisy in performing the mass even though he did not believe in transubstantiation.

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Fol. 15. contigit me. &c. Whereof it maye appeare that Luther sayd Masse, and the deuill disswaded him from it.

Lat. I dooe not take in hande here to defend Luthers sayinges or doynges. If he wer here, he woulde defende himselfe I trowe. I tolde you before that I am not mete for disputatiōs. I praye you reade mine aunswere, wherein I haue declared my faith.

west. Do you beleue this, as ye haue writtē?

Lat. Yea sir.

west. Then haue you no faith.

Lat. Then woulde I bee sorye sir.

Tresh. It is written, Iohn 6. Except ye shal eat

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