Thematic Divisions in Book 12
1. Exhumations of Bucer and Phagius along with Peter Martyr's Wife2. Pole's Visitation Articles for Kent3. Ten Martyrs Burnt at Canterbury4. The 'Bloody Commission'5. Twenty-two Prisoners from Colchester6. Five Burnt at Smithfield7. Stephen Gratwick and others8. Edmund Allen and other martyrs9. Edmund Allen10. Alice Benden and other martyrs11. Examinations of Matthew Plaise12. Richard Woodman and nine other martyrs13. Ambrose14. Richard Lush15. The Martyrdom of Simon Miller and Elizabeth Cooper16. Rose Allin and nine other Colchester Martyrs17. John Thurston18. George Eagles19. Richard Crashfield20. Fryer and George Eagles' sister21. Joyce Lewes22. Rafe Allerton and others23. Agnes Bongeor and Margaret Thurston24. John Kurde25. John Noyes26. Cicelye Ormes27. Persecution at Lichfield28. Persecution at Chichester29. Thomas Spurdance30. Hallingdale, Sparrow and Gibson31. John Rough and Margaret Mearing32. Cuthbert Simson33. William Nicholl34. Seaman, Carman and Hudson35. Three at Colchester36. A Royal Proclamation37. Roger Holland and other Islington martyrs38. Stephen Cotton and other martyrs39. Scourging of Thomas Hinshaw40. Scourging of John Milles41. Richard Yeoman42. John Alcocke43. Thomas Benbridge44. Four at St Edmondsbury45. Alexander Gouch and Alice Driver46. Three at Bury47. A Poor Woman of Exeter48. The Final Five Martyrs49. John Hunt and Richard White50. John Fetty51. Nicholas Burton52. John Fronton53. Another Martyrdom in Spain54. Baker and Burgate55. Burges and Hoker56. The Scourged: Introduction57. Richard Wilmot and Thomas Fairfax58. Thomas Greene59. Bartlett Greene and Cotton60. Steven Cotton's Letter61. James Harris62. Robert Williams63. Bonner's Beating of Boys64. A Beggar of Salisbury65. Providences: Introduction66. The Miraculously Preserved67. William Living68. Edward Grew69. William Browne70. Elizabeth Young71. Elizabeth Lawson72. Christenmas and Wattes73. John Glover74. Dabney75. Alexander Wimshurst76. Bosom's wife77. Lady Knevet78. John Davis79. Mistress Roberts80. Anne Lacy81. Crosman's wife82. Congregation at Stoke in Suffolk83. Congregation of London84. Englishmen at Calais85. Edward Benet86. Jeffrey Hurst87. William Wood88. Simon Grinaeus89. The Duchess of Suffolk90. Thomas Horton 91. Thomas Sprat92. John Cornet93. Thomas Bryce94. Gertrude Crockhey95. William Mauldon96. Robert Horneby97. Mistress Sandes98. Thomas Rose99. Troubles of Sandes100. Complaint against the Ipswich Gospellers101. Tome 6 Life and Preservation of the Lady Elizabeth102. The Unprosperous Queen Mary103. Punishments of Persecutors104. Foreign Examples105. A Letter to Henry II of France106. The Death of Henry II and others107. Justice Nine-Holes108. John Whiteman109. Admonition to the Reader110. Hales' Oration111. The Westminster Conference112. Appendix notes113. Ridley's Treatise114. Back to the Appendix notes115. Thomas Hitton116. John Melvyn's Letter117. Alcocke's Epistles118. Cautions to the Reader119. Those Burnt at Bristol: extra material120. Priest's Wife of Exeter121. Snel122. Laremouth123. William Hunter's Letter124. Doctor Story125. The French Massacre
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John Kennall

DCL. Archdeacon of Rochester (1554 - 1560) (Fasti)

William Wood was examined by Chedsey, Kenall and Robinson on 19 October 1554 in St Nicholas's church, Rochester. 1570, p. 2281, 1576, pp. 1969-70, 1583, p. 2077.

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Philip Melancthon (Philipp Schwartzerdt)

(1497 - 1560) [C. Scott Dixon, M. Greengrass,]

Educated at Heidelberg (1509 - 12) and Tübingen (1512 - 18); professor of Greek at Wittenberg 1518; protestant reformer, associate of Luther; split the Lutheran movement

In his oration for his BTh at Cambridge, Hugh Latimer spoke against Philip Melancthon. He was heard by Thomas Bilney, who converted him to a reformed position. 1570, p. 1146; 1576, p. 981; 1583, p. 1008.

Robert Barnes fled England and went to Germany, where he found favour with Luther, Melancthon, Bugenhagen, Justus Jonas, Hegendorph, Aepinus, the duke of Saxony and the king of Denmark. 1563, p. 603; 1570, p. 1366; 1576, p. 1165; 1583, p. 1194.

Melancthon wrote a letter to Henry VIII against the Six Articles. In it he complained of the imprisonment of Hugh Latimer, Edward Crome and Nicholas Shaxton. 1570, pp. 1340-44; 1576, pp. 1144-47; 1583, pp. 1172-76.

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Scribe. Of Rochester.

William Wood was examined by Chedsey, Kenall and Robinson on 19 October 1554 in St Nicholas' church, Rochester. 1570, p. 2281, 1576, pp. 1969-70, 1583, p. 2077.

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Simon Grinaeus

Melanchthon, who met Simon Grinaeus at the assembly at Spyre in 1529, recounted Grinaeus's story. 1570, pp. 2282-83, 1576, pp. 1970-71, 1583, pp. 2077-78.

Grinaeus heard a sermon by John Faber, bishop of Vienna, and later respectfully complained of the errors Faber maintained and defended. 1570, p. 2282, 1576, p. 1970, 1583, pp. 2077-78.

Faber, having pretended interest in Grinaeus's views, then accused Grinaeus to the king, who sent sergeants to arrest him and take him to prison. 1570, p. 2282, 1576, p. 1970, 1583, p. 2078.

An old man, unknown to Melancthon, warned him of the plot against Grinaeus, and Melancthon and friends took Grinaeus to the river, where he escaped by boat. 1570, pp. 2282-83, 1576, pp. 1970-71, 1583, p. 2078.

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William Chedsey

(1510 - 1574?)

Of Somersetshire. Chaplain to Bishop Bonner. Archdeacon of Middlesex (1554 - 1559). President of Corpus Christi College, Oxford (1558 - 1559). [DNB; Fasti; Foster]

After the death of Edward VI Chedsey recanted and mutated his doctrine to his own purpose, as in his dispute with Peter Martyr.

Chedsey preached at Paul's Cross on 27 August 1553 (1570, p. 1635; 1576, p. 1395; 1583, p. 1465).

He argued with John Philpot in defence of transubstantiation in the 1553 convocation (1563, pp. 910-11; 1570, pp. 1574-75; 1576, p. 1342-3; and 1583, pp. 1413-14).

He was one of the catholic disputants in the Oxford disputations of 1554. He debated with Cranmer on the morning of Monday 16 April (1563, pp. 932-33, 939-43, 946-48, 951 and 954-55; 1570, pp. 1594-96, 1599-1600, 1602 and 1604-5; 1576, pp 1360-62, 1364-65, 1367 and 1369-70; 1583, pp. 1430-32, 1435-1436, 1437 and 1439-40).

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When Chedsey addressed the lord mayor of London, he mentioned two letters- one from the queen and another from the privy council. The council letter was about procession and prayer at the agreement of peace between England and France. The signatories were: Francis Shrewsberye, Penbroke, Thomas Cheyny, William Peter, Thomas Wharton and Richard Southwell. Foxe suggests that he had seen the letter. 1563, p. 1217.

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He published a declaration at Paul's Cross in May 1555. 1563, p. , 1570, p. , 1576, p. , 1583, p. .

Chedsey tried to persuade Hooper to recant after his condemnation on 29 January 1555. He was unsuccessful but false rumors circulated that Hooper had recanted. 1563, p. 1057; 1570, p. 1680; 1576, p. 1434; 1583, p. 1507.

He witnessed Bishop Bonner's burning Thomas Tomkins' hand with a candle. 1570, p. 1710; 1576, p. 1460; 1583, p. 1534.

In late June 1554, Chedsey discussed vernacular services and the adoration of the cross with Thomas Hawkes. The next day Chedsey preached in Bonner's chapel, extolling the saving power of the eucharist. 1563, pp. 1154-55; 1570, pp. 1763-64; 1576, p. 1506; 1583, p. 1589

Philpot's sixth examination was before the Lord Chamberlain to Queen Mary, Ferrars, Lord Rich, Lord St John, Lord Windsor, Lord Shandoys, Sir John Bridges, Chadsey and Bonner. 1563, pp. 1405-12, 1570, pp. 1972-78, 1576, pp. 1698-1702, 1583, pp. 1805-10.

Philpot's seventh examination on 19 November 1555 was before Bonner, Rochester, chancellor of Lichfield, Chadsey and John Dee. 1563, pp. 1412-16, 1570, pp. 1978-80, 1576, pp. 1702-05, 1583, pp. 1810-12.

During Philpot's ninth examination, Bonner called for John Harpsfield, who attended the session, to examine Philpot and Chadsey, who had however left for Westminster. 1563, pp. 1420-24, 1570, pp. 1983-85, 1576, pp. 1707-09, 1583, pp. 1815-16.

Philpot's eleventh examination, on St Andrew's day, was before Durham, Chichester, Bath, Bonner, the prolocutor, Christopherson, Chadsey, Morgan of Oxford, Hussey of the Arches, Weston, John Harpsfield, Cosin, and Johnson. 1563, pp. 1425-34, 1570, pp. 1986-92, 1576, pp. 1710-15, 1583, pp. 1817-22.

Philpot spoke with Worcester, Wright and Chadsey later the same day as his twelfth examination. 1570, pp. 1993-94, 1576, p. 1717, 1583, pp. 1823-24.

Later on the day of his thirteenth examination, Philpot spoke with John Harpsfield, Bonner and Chadsey. 1570, pp. 1996-97, 1576, p. 1719, 1583, pp. 1823-24.

The last examination of Philpot was on 16 December 1555 before Bonner and other bishops, including York, Chichester, Bath, John Harpsfield, Chadsey, Bonner, into which entered William Garret, knight, the lord mayor and the sheriff (Thomas Leigh) of London and Sir Martin Bowes, knight. 1563, p. 1441, 1570, pp. 1997-98, 1576, p. 1719, 1583, p. 1827.

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Chedsey testified in the presence of Master Moseley and the lieutenant of the Tower that Bartlett Green had denied transubstantiation. 1563, p. 1460, 1570, p. 2023, 1576, p. 1744, 1583, p. 1852.

A declaration was made at Paul's Cross by William Chedsey at Bonner's commandment. 1563, p. 1217.

Benold was examined before Chedsey, John Kingston, John Boswell, the two bailiffs of Colchester (Robert Brown and Robert Mainard) and several others on 23 June 1557. 1563, p. 1610, 1570, p. 2202, 1576, p. 1900, 1583, p. 2008.

Elizabeth Folkes was examined before Chedsey, John Kingston, John Boswell, the two bailiffs of Colchester (Robert Brown and Robert Mainard) and several others on 23 June 1557. Chedsey wept when the sentence of condemnation was read against her. 1563, p. 1610, 1570, p. 2202, 1576, p. 1900, 1583, p. 2008.

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When Alexander Wimshurst arrived at St Paul's, he saw Chedsey, his old acquaintance at Oxford, and said to him that he would rather be examined by Martin than by anyone else. 1570, p. 2276, 1576, p. 1965, 1583, p. 2072.

William Wood was examined by Chedsey, Kenall and Robinson on 19 October 1554 in St Nicholas's church, Rochester. 1570, p. 2281, 1576, pp. 1969-70, 1583, p. 2077.

Chedsey was committed to the Fleet after the death of Mary. 1563, p. 1707, 1570, p. 2301, 1576, p. 1992, 1583, p. 2101.

He sent a letter to Bonner dated 21 April 1558 [BL, Ms. Harley 416, fos.74r-v. Foxe describes the letter on 1570, p. 2301 et seq.]

[Foxe frequently refers to him as 'Chadsey'.]

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William Wood

Baker. Of Stroud, Kent.

William Wood was examined by Chedsey, Kenall (chancellor of Rochester) and Robinson (scribe) on 19 October 1554 in St Nicholas's church, Rochester. 1570, p. 2281, 1576, pp. 1969-70, 1583, p. 2077.

He was a witness against Richard Gibson. 1563, p. 1642.

Foxe includes Wood's own record of his examination. 1563, p. 1642, 1570, p. 2223, 1576, p. 1919, 1583, p. 2077.

Wood wrote a letter relating his 'miraculous' escapes from danger, dated 25 July 1583. 1583, p. 2145.

William Wood offered sanctuary in his house to Walter Appleby and his wife, but within a fortnight the bishop of Rochester sent his chief man to bring them to Rochester, where they were imprisoned and later burned. 1583, p. 2145.

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NGR: TQ 730 686

An ancient city, having separate jurisdiction, locally in the lathe of Aylesford, county of Kent. 8.5 miles north from Maidstone. The city is the seat of the bishopric, and comprises the parishes of St Nicholas and St Margaret, both in the Archdeaconry and Diocese of Rochester. St Margaret's is a vicarage in the patronage of the Dean and Chapter, and St Nicholas is a vicarage in the patronage of the bishop.

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English information from Samuel Lewis, A Topographical Dictionary of England (S. Lewis & Co: London, 1831)

Welsh information taken from Samuel Lewis, A Topographical Dictionary of Wales(Lewis & Co: London, 1840)

The reason for the use of these works of reference is that they present the jurisdictional and ecclesiastical position as it was before the major Victorian changes. The descriptions therefore approximate to those applying in the sixteenth century, after the major changes of 1535-42. Except for the physical locations, which have not changed, the reader should not therefore take these references as being accurate in the twenty-first century.

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Strowd, Strowde
NGR: TQ 733 692

A parish partly within the jurisdiction of the borough of Rochester, and partly in the hundred of Skamwell, lathe of Aylesford, county of Kent. Half-mile north-west from Rochester. The living is a perpetual curacy in the Archdeaconry and Diocese of Rochester

English information from Samuel Lewis, A Topographical Dictionary of England (S. Lewis & Co: London, 1831)

Scottish information from Samuel Lewis, A Topographical Dictionary of Scotland (S. Lewis & Co: London, 1846)

Welsh information taken from Samuel Lewis, A Topographical Dictionary of Wales(Lewis & Co: London, 1840)

The reason for the use of these works of reference is that they present the jurisdictional and ecclesiastical position as it was before the major Victorian changes. The descriptions therefore approximate to those applying in the sixteenth century, after the major changes of 1535-42. Except for the physical locations, which have not changed, the reader should not therefore take these references as being accurate in the twenty-first century.

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2101 [2077]

Queene Mary. Diuers preserued by Gods prouidence from burning in Queene Maryes dayes.

MarginaliaAnno 1558.seruauntes about them from theyr worke, saying: is thys M. Doctor Browne that will burne Beades? MarginaliaLike Maister lyke men.I pray you Syr, let vs haue him here and preach. I will geue a quarters wages, sayth one: and I will geue mony sayth an other, and he shall be mayster Doctour: with much derision and scoffing at this poore man.

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He hearing this, spake agayn boldly, and sayd: did you send for me to make a laughing stocke of me? You be in office, and ought rather to come to the Church, and see suche Papistry abolished your selfe, then thus to trouble me for doyng my duety: but I tell you playnely, you do not come to Church as you ought to doe, and wherefore with more thinges that I haue to charge you withall, I say you doe not well. MarginaliaA lamentable thing when such Iustices beare rule ouer Christian congregations.When all this misdemeanour of the Iustice layd to his charge, woulde not preuayle, and also witnes came in of the Papistes, which did know the Beades, & testified that they were playne & cost but a halfepeny, he then went into his Parlor in a chafe, and one M. Erberston a papist with him. Which Erberston turned backe and sayd: is it you Henry Browne, that keepeth this styrre? you are one of them that pulled downe Crosses in the church, and pulled downe the Roode seller,  

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"Rood-soller," that is the rood-loft, or the chamber (solarium) where the rood was kept. - ED. Appendix:An illustration may be given of this word from Higden's Polychronicon, in his notice of the Council "at Ryall strete of Calne," where Dunstan so "wysely" presided in 978. "Thenne the gistes & the beames of the soler all tobrake, and the soler fell doun; and some were deed & some hurte and maymed for evermore. Soo all yt there were were deed other hurt ful sore, Outake Dunstā alone, that escaped gracyously & wysely." (Lib. vi. cap. 12, London, 1527.)

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and all the Sayntes: you were best now to goe paynt a blacke Deuill, and set him vp and worship him, for that will serue well for your religiō. MarginaliaHenry Browne vnder suertyes dismissed for a tyme.And thus vnder suretiship he did depart til Iuly folowing and then he sayd he should go to Lancaster prison, and so came he away.

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MarginaliaThe punishment of Gods stroke vpon an obstinate persecutor.The time drew on that he should appeare, but GOD stayed in the matter, and in Iuly, as the foresayde Thomas Lelond sate in his chair talking with his friendes, he fell downe sodeinly dead, not much mouing any ioynt: And thus was his end: from such God vs defend.

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¶ William Wood of Kent. 
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This account of the examinations of William Wood was apparently sent to Foxe by Wood himself (see 1583, p. 2146).

MarginaliaExamination of William Wood.THe examination of William Woode Baker, dwelling in the Parish of Strowd, in the County of Kent, before Doctor Kenall Chauncellour of the Dioces of Rochester, Doctor Chadsey, the Maior of Rocher, and M. Robinson the Scribe, the 19. day of October, and in the secōd yeare of Queene Mary, in S. Nicholas Church in Rochester.

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M. Robinson. MarginaliaW. Wood charged for not comming to church. William Wood, you are presented because you will not come to the Church, nor receiue the blessed sacrament of the Aultar. Howe say you? haue you receiued, or haue you not?

Wood. I haue not receiued it, nor I dare not receiue it, as you do now minister it.

Kenall. Thou Hereticke, what is the cause that thou hast not receyued the blessed Sacrament of the Aultar? and at this word all they put off theyr cappes, and made low beisaunce.

Wood. Marginalia.3 causes why William Wood durst not receiue the Sacrament of the Aultar. There be three causes that make my conscience afeard that I dare not receiue it. The first Christ did deliuer it to his xij. Apostles, and sayd: Take, eate: And drinke ye all of this. &c. and ye eate and drinke vppe all alone. The seconde cause is: you hold it to be worshipped, contrary to Gods comaūdements: Thou shalt not bow downe nor worship. The third cause is: you minister it in a straunge toung, contrary to S. Paules doctrine: I lad rather haue fiue wordes wyth vnderstanding, then ten thousand with tounges: by reasō wher of the people be ignoraunt of the death of Christ.

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Kenall. Thou hereticke, wilt thou haue any playner wordes then these: Hoc est corpus meum? Take, eat, this is my body? wilt thou deny the Scripture?

Wood. I will not deny the holy Scripturs: GOD forbid, but with my hart I do faythfully beleue them. Saynt Paule sayth: God calleth those thinges that are not, as though they were. And Christ sayth: I am a Vyne: I am a doore. Saynt Paule sayth: The Rocke is Christ: All which are figuratiue speaches, wherein one thing is spoken, and an other thing is vnderstanded.

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Robins. You make a very long tale of this matter. Learne Wood, learne.

Kenall. Nay, these heretickes will not learne. Looke howe this heretike glorieth in himselfe. Thou foole, art thou wiser then the Queene and her Counsell, and all the larned men of this Realme?

Wood. And it please you, Mayster Chauncellour, I thinke you would be loth to haue such glory, to haue your life and goodes taken away, and to be thus rayled vppon, as you rayle vppon me. But the seruaunt is not greater then his Mayster. And where you do mocke me, and saye I am wiser then the Queene and her Counsell, S. Paule sayth: The wisedome of the wise of this world is foolishnesse before God, and he that will be wise in this world, shall be accounted but a foole.

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Kenall. Doest not thou beleue that after these wordes spo-

ken by a priest: Hoc est corpus meum: This is my body: there remayneth no more bread and Wine, but the very fleshe & bloud of Christ, as he was borne of the virgin Mary, really and substantially, in quantity and quality, as he did hāg vpon the Crosse?

Wood. I pray you M. Chaūcellour, geue me leaue for my learning, to aske you one question, and I will aunswere you after.

Kenall. It is some wise question, I warrant you.

Wood. God spake to the Prophet Ezechiell, MarginaliaEzech. 5.saying: Thou sonne of man, take a rasour and shaue of the heare of thy head & of thy beard, and take one part and cast into the ayre: take the second part and put it into thy coat lap, and take the third part & cast it into the fire: & this is Ierusalem. I pray you, M. Chaūcellour, MarginaliaWilliam Woods question propounded to the Doctours.was this heare that the Prophet did cast into the fire, or was it Ierusalem?

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Kenall. No, it did signify Ierusalem.

Wood. Euen so this word of Christ: This is my body: MarginaliaThe naturall quantitye of Christ not in the not so to be vnderstanded that Christes carnall, naturall, & reall body is in the same, in quantity and quality, as it was borne of the virgin Mary: and as he was crucified vpon the crosse, is present or inclosed in the sacramēt: but it doth signify Christes body, as S. Paule sayth: So oft as ye doe eat of this bread and drinke of this cup, you shall shew forth the Lordes death til he come. What should the Apostle meane by this word, till he come, if he were here carnally, naturally, corporally, and really in the same quantity and quality as he was borne of the virgine Mary, and as he did hang on the crosse, as you say? but Saynt Paule saith: You shall shew the Lordes death till he come. This doth argue that he is not here as you would haue vs to beleue.

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Doctour Chadsey. I will proue that Christ is here present vnder the forme of bread, but not in quantity and quality.

Kenall sayde: yes he is here present in quantitye and quality.

Chadsey. He is here present vnder a forme, and not in quātity and quality.

Yes, sayd Kenall. MarginaliaThe Papistes could not agree in their owne doctrine.

No, sayd Chadsey.

I will proue him here in quantity and qualitie, sayde Kenall.

I will proue the contrary, sayd Chadsey.

And these two doctors were so earnest in this matter, the one to affirme, the other to deny, contending & raging so sore one at the other, that they fomed at þe mouth, & one was ready to spit in an others face, so that in a great fury and rage the two Doctors rose vp from the iudgemēt seat, and Doctor Kenall departed out of the Churche in greate rage and fury immediatly.

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Wood. Behold good people, they would haue vs to beleue that Christ is naturally, really, in quantity & quality present in the Sacramēt, and yet they can not tell themselues, nor agree within themselues how he is there.

At these wordes the people made a great shout and the Maior stood vp and commaunded the people to be quiet, & to keep silence. And that God þt did deliuer S. Paul out of the handes of the high Priests, by the contention that was betwene the Phariseis and the Saduces, MarginaliaW. Wood deliuered, as was S. Paule by the contention of the Phariseys and Saduces. did euen so deliuer me at that time out of the mouthes of the bloudy Papistes, by the meanes of the contention of these two Doctors. Blessed be the name of the Lord which hath promised to laye no more vpon his, then he will make them able to beare, and in the midst of temptation he can make a way for his (whome and when it pleaseth him) to escape out of all daungers.

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Many other like examples of Gods helpyng hande haue bene declared vpon his elect Sayntes and Children in deliuering them out of daunger by wonderfull and miraculous wayes, some by one meanes some by an other. What a notable worke of Gods mightye hand was seene in Simon Grinæus, mentioned in the Commentary of Melancthon vpon Daniell. Who hauing a sodeine warnynge by a certaine olde man, who was not seene after nor knowen then of any what he was, auoided the peril of taking and burning, as by the relation of Melancthon writing and witnessing of the same, may appeare in the wordes of hys owne story here folowing.

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The History of Simon Grinæus collected out of Melancthons Commentaris vpn the x. Chapiter of Daniell. 
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This account was first printed in the main body of the 1563 edition (pp. 441-42) and moved to this section on providential rescues in the 1570 edition.

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See Melancthon's Works, folio. Witebergæ, 1601. vol. ii. p. 477. - ED.

MarginaliaThe Story of Simon Grineus. Ex Commentariis Phil. Melanct. in cap. 10. Danielis.WHen I was (sayth he) at the assembly holden at Spyre in the yeare of our Lord 1529. by chaunce Simon Grynæus came thither vnto me from the Vniuersity of Hedelberge, where he hearde Faber the Byshoppe of Vienna in a Sermon, defend and mayteyne certayne detestable errors. When the Sermon was done, he folowed Faber go-

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