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Whan he refused to meete vs in the borders of the kinge, we, to satisfy his minde, condiscēdid to mete him within the land of the french king in the place where he himself apointed, bycause ther shoulde be no let in vs wherby to stoppe his profit. After we had entred communicatiō, we begā to exhort hī al that we culd, to submit & hūble him selfe to his soueraign & king (who had heaped him with such benefittes and dignities) wherby matter might be geuen vs to further occasion to reconcile them to gether. he being thus moued and exhorted by vs departed aside to consult with his counsell vpon the matter. At lengh after counsell taken, hee commith againe aunsweringe in this manner. That hee would submit and humble himselfe to the king. Saluo honore dei, et ecclesiæ libertate, salua etiam honescate personæ suæ, et possessionibus ecclesiarum, et amplius sua et suorum in omnibus salua iusticia. That is saue the honour of God and the liberty of the church, saue also the honesty of my person, and the possessions of churches, and moreouer saue the iustice of him and of all his in al thinges, & c After which communication had emonge vs, we moued and required him more instantly, that he would come to the speciallyties, whan as he had brought nothing in, either which was certaine or particuler. Likewise we demanded of him if he would in all such things conteined and comprehended in our letters, stand and submit himselfe to our letters, so as the kinge, and the bishoppes before were contented to do. To the which he aunswering againe, sayde, that he had receiued of you a commaundement not to aunswere before he and al his were restored ful to all their possessions. And than he woulde so proceade in the matter accordinge as he shuld receyue commaundement from the sea apostolycall. Thus we breakynge of communycatyon seyng hys wordes neither would stand to iudgment, nor come to conformyty, we thought to make relatyon therof to the kynge, and so dyd, whych he had expressed to vs, yet not vttering all, but keapinge back a great parte which we hard and seane. Which whan the king and his nobles had vnderstand, he affirmed to vs again that he therin was clered so much the more, for that the archbishop would not stand to iudgement nor abide the triall. After much heauines and lamentation of the kinge, the Archbishop Bishoppes, and Abbottes of the realme requiringe of vs, whether wee had any such power by vertue of our commission to withstand him and to proceade againste him, they perceiuinge that our autoritie would not serue thervnto, & fearynge least the forsaide Archbishop refusyng all order of iudgemente, woulde worke againe disquietnes to som noble persōages of the realme (seinge our autority could not extend so far to help thē against hym) taking a consultation emong them selues. agreed to gether with one assente, to make ther appellation to your audience, prefixing accordinglye the terme of theyr appeale.

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And this is the Epistle of theise. ii. Cardinals sent to the pope, wherin, may sufficiently apere all the discourse and manner of that assemblye, although particulerly euery thing is not expressed concerninge the talke betwixt the Cardinalls and the Archbishop, as whanas William, who of the. ii. Cardinals was the more eloquent, amongest other communication had reasoned long wt him concerning the peace of the church, which Becket saide he preferred aboue all thinges: Well then saith the Cardinal, seinge all this contention betwene the kinge and you riseth vpon certaine lawes and customes to be abrogate, and you say, that you regard the peace of the church so much: Well than what say you, will you renounce your bishopricke, and the king shal renounce his customes? The peace of the church now lieth in your handes either to reteine, or to let goo, what say you? To whome he aunswereth agayne, that the proportion was not like. For I saith he, sauinge the honour of my church and of my person cannot renounce my bishopricke. Contrary for the king, it standith vpon his soules helth and honour to renounce theise his ordinances and customes. Whiche he thus proued bycause the pope had condemned those customes, and hee likewise with the church of Rome had done the same &c.

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¶ The talke betwene the french kinge, the king of England, and Becket.

AFter the Cardinals were returned, the french kinge, seinge the kinge of Englande disquieted, and solicitus to haue peace, or at least wise pretending to set agrement betwene them, brought the matter to a communication emonge them. In which communication the french kinge made himselfe as an vmpeare betwene them. The kinge of England hearing that the Archbishop would commit himselfe to his arbitremēt, was the more willinge to admit his presence. MarginaliaBecket cōmith in with his old addition. Saluo honore dei.Wherupon many beinge there present, the Archbishoppe prostratinge himselfe at the kings feete, declared vnto him knelinge vpon his knees that he wuld commit the whole cause, wherof the dissention rose betwene them, vnto his owne arbitrement, addinge thereto, as he did before Saluo honore Dei, that is saluinge the honour of God. MarginaliaBecket charged with vnkindner.The kinge, who, as is saide before, was gretly offendid at this worde, hearinge and seinge the stifnes of the man, stickinge so much to this woorde Salue honore &c, was heighly therewith displeased, rebukinge him with many greuous wordes as a man proude and stubborne also charged him with soundry and greate benefites bestowed vpon him, as a person vnkinde and forgettinge what he so gently had done and bestowed vpon him.

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And speaking to the french kinge there present: Se Sir if it please you, saith the king of England, what so euer displeasith this man,

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